Sunday, August 10, 2008

Daniel Pinchbeck VS Whitley Strieber

This podcast: War in Dreamland was really excellent for me, it's a few months old so sorry for the old news. But I only listened to it now, two researchers challenging eachother on their belief system and reality tunnel. I'd love to hear more researchers doing that. It got a little heated but remained very interesting. I know about both authors but haven't read any of their books, and I've only heard and seen what Daniel Pinchbeck has online.
They get to a point in the conversation where Pinchbeck challenges Whitley Strieber on his negative view of the future, he believes there will be a huge “die-off” of the human species in the immediate future (Pinchbeck repeated this a lot hehe). Pinchbeck said he was projecting his shadow too, but ironically was losing his own temper. Strieber was able to stay relatively calm but used some strong defensive language himself, and didn't appreciate it at all when Pinchbeck suggested his entity contacts might be influencing him negatively (I have no idea :p Am fascinated to find out more. More about this from Pinchbeck later in the post). The talk never really got out of hand for me though. Pinchbeck apologized too. I never felt the need to pick a side, or was persuaded one way or the other because both men had valid points and I understood their perspectives, taking both their history in consideration and trying to learn the most this way. It just goes to show the limits of language, the unconscious connections we make and how easy it is to get emotional over our values, views and beliefs. Even for the most aware. Ah to be human. I wonder how neutral I come across in this post to some people even though I'm trying hard to be I'm sure subjectivity always continues to shine through haha ;).
I do agree though that Strieber shouldn't be so sure about, and not necessarily especially, a negative future but any future, and send those vibes out, and that more discretion and carefully worded language could be used, like E-prime. I agree with Pinchbeck that we should take responsibility for the vibes we put out there (and I'll keep trying to improve the positivity which needs a boost with the daily conspiracy series, but that doesn't mean ignoring the conspiracy realm, I'll start with a more positive daily series when the conspiracy series runs out ;)), but at the same time I agree with Strieber that everything should be looked at and explored and that I'm not convinced (yet?) either about 'thought creating reality'. Both came out ok of the interview for me.
I think I'll read Strieber's book Communion, just because I wanna know what happened now, especially since Pinchbeck mentioned the original title was going to be 'Body Terror' until an entity told him to change it! What to think, well, nothing until you have at least some amount of info to be able to come up with an interpretation ;). I won't spoil it all (lol, haven't I already?) you'll just have to listen for yourself ;). I'll include both authors own views on the discussion and some excerpts I find interesting, if you still want more I read some interesting (including some very bias-detectable) blogposts on the interwebs so head to google for that ;).

Here's Daniel Pinchbeck's view on the discussion.

"The discussion then turned in a different direction. I noted that, from my reading of Strieber's work, I suspected that Strieber was influenced by the force that the visionary philosopher Rudolf Steiner called 'Ahriman,' the evil spirit who pulls humanity down into minerality, materiality, sterile technology, and extinction. As I also noted in 2012, I told Strieber that I thought he had been manipulated by alien entities that do not have the best interests of the human species at heart. Communion is ultimately the story of Strieber's seduction by those entities he calls the 'visitors' often known as the Grays. He notes that he was going to call the book 'body terror,' but changed the name to Communion when one of them told him to do this, speaking through his wife, while she slept. He also describes how the visitors were able to make him drink a bitter substance, by feeding it to him at different junctures over time. As anyone knows who has studied fairytales and fables, to drink the potion of the other world is to become entranced and overwhelmed by the beings that inhabit it."

And here is Whitley Strieber's.

Pinchbeck accuses me of bringing on a dark future by predicting it. That’s magical thinking, and just as impotent as its opposite—that you can create a positive future by believing in it. (The jury is still out on this one for me, for me awareness is a search light and synchronicity is fascinating, and that's where I'm at at this time.)

I say in the program that I believe that mankind is going to experience a dieback, and this makes Pinchbeck furious because he fears that just by saying something like that, it will become true. I don’t want to put words in another man’s mouth, but I had the impression that he sees me as a sort of viral particle of negativism, and that my perspective is designed to bring on the destructions of which I warn—presumably, so that my evil alien masters can inherit the ruined planet, I suppose.
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Pinchbeck is right about me in one respect. I do think that there’s going to be a dieback of the human species, and I do not think that anything can be done to avoid it. Certainly, it can be ameliorated and even, to an extent, controlled, but it is going to happen. (Well I can't agree with such an assertion. "It seems very likely at this time" is a safer way to not look foolish when it doesn't ;p)

The reason that I’m sure of this could not be more simple. In nature, there is a formation called a bell curve. When the ascending shoulder of a bell curve develops, the descending shoulder follows. Nothing goes up for ever. Entropy always sets in. It must. That’s the way that physics works. I said it on the show—at least, I think I did—and it’s worth repeating here. Nature is numbers. It’s math, pure and simple.

5 Scientific Theories That Will Make Your Head Explode

Check out this hilarious article 5 Scientific Theories That Will Make Your Head Explode at cracked.com.
Some great and funny introductions to Quantum Entanglement, Evolution, The Copenhagen Interpretation, The Many Worlds Theory, The Universe Is Big, and even a few others in short at the end. Here's another fun article from the site: The 5 Most Ridiculously Unjust Religious Afterlives.

Moving Dimensions and Synchromysticism


Imagining the Tenth Dimension - Rob Bryanton

Check out this Moving Dimensions and Synchromysticism post by Rob Bryanton at Imagining the Tenth Dimension, and Jake Kotze's post about it at the Blob: The Tenth Dimension and Synchromysticism.

"Jake has developed a large body of work playing with ideas surrounding the hidden connections not just in the real world but from the work of artists and entertainment media, with the idea that we are all plugged into a giant web of connections across time and space (which means, as I've said before, that these connections are occurring at the fifth dimension, where our reality comes from, and this is why those instantaneous --faster-than-light!--hidden connections I listed at the start of this blog violate no laws of physics)." Rob Bryanton

"I find the idea that synchromysticism can be viewed as compatible with higher dimensional physics a delight." Jake Kotze

Me too. Like spidey in Indra's net. Everything's connected, explore everything.

Terence McKenna in the teeth of the cosmic giggle


Terence McKenna in the teeth of the cosmic giggle

The Law

VideoDrome: The BS Arena

The movie starts with a broadcast from Civic TV (The One you take to bed with you...) Channel 83 (11) Cable 12 (3).

"Max it's that time again, time to slowly painfully ease yourself back into consciousness, No I'm not a dream, although I've been told I'm a vision of loveliness. I'm nothing less than your faithful girl Friday, Friday James, here with your wake up call of today which is wednesday the 23rd. You got that? Wednesday the 23rd!"

Interesting, W is the 23rd letter of the alphabet. Even more so, the letter W has 2 strokes down, 3 up in it. So not only invoking the law of Fives (2+3=5), Wednesday is Mercury/Wodan's day too, the day of wisdom. Max is going to learn something today and so will the aware viewer (and reader :p).
Her name is Friday, the day of Venus, so that resonates love & sexual ecstasy (a force used rather often on tv...). Her name might signify that because she's on the TV she's a mind controlled puppet, for the pleasure of the viewer, and the puppets are named after the days of the week...

She goes on: "Remember your meeting this morning, this meeting is to take place at the Classic Hotel, Suite 17... Don't you know anyone that works nine to five? Over and out, commander."

Friday mentions 17 just for Chris from Secret Sun, who suggests 17 symbolizes an unjust death and the promise of rebirth.
The woman adds a joke that anyone working from nine to five is loco or a dummy. The Mind Control theme gets carried on with "Commander".

We see a TwoFace twin resonator on the wall in Max his appartement. Max is a lowly TV station owner with 2 partners, that shows the lowest extreme shit there is to find on the airwaves.

Max is listening to a woman called Masha trying to sell a show, he doesn't wanna see the first episode but the 13th one: It's a crazy soft porn featuring Harlequin/Joker masks, chinese puppets, and the clearest phallic symbol possible lol, which looks like a mushroom too, kind of. It's too soft for Max.

Camera moves, oh there you go: a black monolith building. Moving over to a pyramid type sky-window with a thingy on it lol :p. All this to see a satellite dish, which may be the "same technology" as a pyramid...

Because Max is on the Rena King show (Rena means peace in Greek) where they'll talk tv and limits. There's a half concentric circle stargate symbol behind him. There's also a psychologist Nicki (played by Deborah Harry from Blondie) on the program too, not a very good one as she's seduced by Max (her former shadow projection which now fascinates her) in a split second.
Blondie: I think we live in overstimulated times, we crave stimulation for its own sake. We gorge ourselves on it, we always want more wether it's tactile, emotional or sexual, and I think that's bad.
Max: Then why did you wear that dress? :p after some chit chat she admits "I admit it. I live in a highly excited state of overstimulation."

Something I personally find incomprehensible, I was always bored in my old media induced reality tunnel, and pissed off at most that was offered. (Though I still took me 23 years to pick up a real book... so I understand how hard it is to wake up from it) All the world's distractions don't seem to be enough entertaining for me, though hey, I am an introvert. To compare, most of the people I know only talk about what they've "been presented". There is no creativity, only consuming. Eating up everything that's thrown at them, taking it at face value, and bitching at the things they don't like. I can barely function like that anymore, it's really hard to crawl into that old stagnant uninspired reality tunnel. I need to analyze, talk symbolism, metaphor, subliminals, agendas. I mean geez, most people in the west are just walking commercials (have you seen/heard this?!).

So the presenter goes to Brian O'blivion (who's on a tv, on a tv show):
presenter: Professor do you erotic tv shows and violent tv shows lead to desentisation, to dehumanization?
Professor Brian O'blivion says: The television screen has become the retina of the minds eye. That's why I refuse to appear on tv, except on tv, of course O'blivion is not the name i was born with, that's my tv name (just like so many of the aristocracy have changed their names to not stand out too much, keeping the illusion), soon all of us will have special names, names designed to cause the Cathode Ray Tube to resonate." (MMORPG alert? ;p another useful bondage tool to keep people from actually achieving something tangible on this planet.)

Then we see Max checking out a show from 'Malaysia' (mal, in french=bad - asia...? :p) called VideoDrome which shows the torture of a person (seems to resonate the trauma mind control Monarch programming, but also the Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo atrocities along with 'terrorist videos')
Max likes it (because he thinks its 'fictional', not to mention low cost) but wants to see more before deciding to buy it.
"I'm looking for something that'll... break through. You know?" Max

Later Masha comes back to Max and he says he's looking for the hardcore shit, like videodrome:

Max Renn: Do you know a show called 'Videodrome'?
Masha: Video what?
Max Renn: Videodrome. Like video circus, video arena. Do you know it?
Masha: No.
Max Renn: It's just torture and murder. No plot, no characters. Very, very realistic. I think it's what's next.
Masha: Then God help us.

Later Max goes to Blondie's office, who does a radio show where she's a disturbing mix between a psychologist and a sex line, more of what the people think they'll like - instead of what's good for them. A large problem with talking therapy is all that is going on is focusing on the problems in many ways, how do you expect the problem to go away then?

They have a date at Max his place, they watch Videodrome as Blondie finds the tape by 'accident', after only watching a little she asks Max to cut her, what a crazy susceptible bitch.

Nicki Brand: Got any porno?
Max Renn: You serious?
Nicki Brand: Yeah. It gets me in the mood. [looks through casettes]
Nicki Brand: What's this? "Videodrome"?
Max Renn: Torture. Murder.
Nicki Brand: Sounds great.
Max Renn: Ain't exactly sex.
Nicki Brand: Says who? (Anyone who isn't brainwashed & traumatized...)

In the movie the city of Pittsburg gets named a crapload of times, I dunno why, but here's an interesting thing I came up with: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, whose official "federal" spelling of its city name was "Pittsburg" from 1891 to 1911. It may be a coincidental clue to the biggest psyop of all time or I'm missing something :p

Later he meets Masha again who tried to sell him the chinese soft porn, she tells him about videodrome: "what you see on that show, it's for real"
Max: "I can't believe it." (one of the biggest problems in this world, the censorship of Belief Systems, oh if only the world knew how more farfetched their consensus reality was, compared to the fiction of which they are sure is too far 'out there' (their, belief system or scope of reality.)
Woman: "Then don't believe... It has something that you don't have Max, it has a philosophy and that is what makes it dangerous."

Skip to later in the movie where Friday enters his appartement, we see him hitting blondie (the psychologist from earlier, instead of Friday) twice, but he didn't hit anyone, the TV BS is superimposing over his reality. Which is a nice metaphor for believing the bullshit propaganda in the media, and opening your third eye to the Astral planes at the same time (along with a psychosis metaphor, I guess ;p).

He receives a tape from O'Blivion and it breathes. (click for earlier posted video)
O'Blivion says: "The battle for the mind of north america will be fought int he video arena, the video drome, the tv screen is the retina of the minds eye, therefor the tv screen is part of the physical structure of the brain, therefor whatever appears on tv screen emerges as raw experience for those who watch it, therefor tv is reality and reality is less than tv."

How about you, are you merely a consumer (victim) or are you a creator (victor) in the Information Arena? Are you spreading useful information? If we want to destroy the Maintream Media Beast - which is a nice metaphor for Satan as he was Legion=Many and a deceiver as well - you'll have to get a move on, unless you wanna keep living in a world based on BS.

"I'm so glad you came to me, I've been through it all myself you see, your reality is already half video hallucination, if you're not careful it'll become total hallucination, you'll have to learn to live in a very strange new world. I had a brain tumor, and I had visions, I believe the visions caused the tumor and not the reverse, i feel the visions coalesce and become flesh, uncontrollable flesh, but when they removed the tumor, it was called videodrome, I was the I was videodromes first victim. *gets killed* :p

Max: who's behind it what do they want?!

Then we see the executioner (Al Qaeda aka CIA stylee), take of her hood and it's Blondie, wouldn't you know.
Blondie: I want you max, you, come to me, come to nicky, come on, don't make me wait, please...
The TV breathes as if its alive... and Max puts his head into the TV in the stargate mouth, obviously... (entering another world, a metaphor for being fooled by the tv propaganda)

Later we see the King and Joker (Fool) cards on a different tv, Pisces symbolism high on the wall as well.

Max meets with O'Blivion's daughter. As Max hands the tape to her: "be careful, 'it bites'", ah the tape and reality (bites)? ;p. Oh there you go, a nice satanic reversed cross in background, along with many historic relics. They go to a room full of data of O'blivion, who's dead (the tv on tv show were earlier recorded images), this room symbolizes his DNA, memory bank, etc.

O'blivion thought his tumor wasn't a tumor at all but:
"A new organ, a new part of the brain, I think that massive doses of videodrome's signal will ultimately create a new outgrowth of the human brain which will produce and control hallucination to the point that it will change human reality, after all there is nothing real outside our perception of reality, is there? Huhuhuh, you can see that, can't you?"

Life and the human species evolves and adapts to what it is constantly experiencing, if all you're experiencing is mainstream media, guess what you'll devolve to. A few clips of people being asked questions about politics or recent history shows you where we're going, and it's looking kinda frustratingly bad.

Someone who calls max has a car waiting for him, that's never good:
In the limo on the screen, a logo comes up: Spectacular Optical, an eye concentric circle stargate symbol says HELLO these are the bad guys. They say they make cheap glasses for the third world, along with missile guiding systems for NATO and videodrome :p How many of our own reality's corporations have a front for the atrocities they commit. In any case let me remind you that Child and Slave labor is still a reality, and Western companies among others are enjoying the profits of it. Now please go buy yourself those new pair of sneakers and chocolate, and die a little inside.

Max is wearing hexagonal glasses (among many things a symbol for community, the bee-hive, Max is going to be assimilated) - "you're playing with dynamite" says Barry Convex of Spectacular Optical. Later they want to try to record his hallucinations with a prototype device, because all the other test subjects have gone mad:
"But for now I think that you'll find a little s&m will be necessary to trigger off a good healthy series of hallucinations. It's why our videodrome show is so strange, something to do with the effects of exposure to violence in the nervous system, it opens up receptors in the brain and the spine and then allows the videodrome signal to sink in."
Max: "You mean I'm going to have to hurt you barry?"
Barry: "No, just think about it."

"You'll forgive me if I don't stay around to watch. I just can't cope with the freaky stuff. "
Barry Convex - a lot of people responsible for evils in this world can't even look at their own atrocities.

after wacky hallucinations, max wakes up in his bed and says "what's going on professor oblivion, I mean really" but then he sees his 'victim' of the hallucination in real life next to him in his bed. He covers her up with a pillow, there :p, and goes to the other room to call his work partner who finds all the vids for him, and he doesn't see the woman, Convex said he'd have more hallucinations... (Which is a nice metaphor meaning, anyone who accepts a Belief System pushed by authorities, will be experiencing reality through those B.S. filters - effectively hallucinating a reality that will be preserved by the psychological phenomenon of Confirmation Bias. This is how easy it is to divide and control a planet.)

Later we find out that Barry was conspiring with his working partner al along, and they tell him VideoDrome had never been transmitted, they just showed him tapes. And then they ask him why he really watched the tapes. An easy way of shifting blame, using curiosity which is normally a learning tool (see how kids their curiosity gets crushed by their annoyed parents and the school system.) Harlon, Convex his boss or something (who cares) says:
"North America's getting soft, *patron*, and the rest of the world is getting tough. Very, very tough. We're entering savage new times (the only people who can predict the future are the ones who've set the agenda :p), and we're giong to have to be pure and direct and strong, if we're going to survive them. Now, you and this cesspool you call a television station and your people who wallow around in it, your viewers who watch you do it, they're rotting us away from the inside. We intend to stop that rot. " (Nevermind they started the rot, and intend to 'stop' it by increasing the rot, lol, wtf)
Max: I gotta be hallucinating now right? You guys can't be for real!

They 'analysed' his hallucinations (sounds like Scientology) and he's ready for something new, a new distraction. "I want you to open up to me" and his body just eats the tape, oh well.

He's now an effective mind controlled hallucinating puppet, and he hears voices that they want his channel and he has to kill his partners. He stuck his gun in the hole in his body (the tape hole) a while ago, and gets it out, too bad it's start portruding his hand, and now is another organ like the previously mentioned 'hallucination-tumor', the gun is now a part of his body. A reshaped killer, like any soldier on the planet. They are no longer innocent humans, they are now human-weapon hybrids... The caterpillar, before it turns into a butterfly, first turns into a PUPPET.

The Max puppet goes to his partners and kills them, no hesitation. He gets out of the office and passes people carrying two doors (into other worlds, stargates - can also be a metaphor for 'obstacles').

Now max the mind controlled puppet hears voices again "kill Bianca O'blivion, she can hurt us, don't let her hurt us max" over and over the same message

He hears a plane flying over and smashes his way through one of the 2 dagon-symbol windows of a door which has another reversed satanic cross in the background. She knows he's come to kill her, but Max acts like an alter of his former personality to confuse her, but she knows what's up Bianca: "They can make you do what they want... they want you to destroy me."
Max: "Destroy you..."

She tries to appease to him by saying they killed Nicky (Blondie) on videodrome,
"videodrome is death"
a gun fleshed (uncontrollable flesh?) out of the tv shoots Max, "thats better, so much better" says Bianca O'blivion, "it's always painful to remove the cassette and change the program, but now that we have, you'll see you've become quite different from what you were." (What they're talking about here is the cognitive dissonance when your Belief System, aka your Reality, falls apart.)

"I am the video word made flesh"

She knows how she can use him to destroy videodrome:
"You know what you have to do, you'll turn against videodrome, you use the weapons they've given you to destroy them. Death to the videodrome, long live the new flesh!"

Let's hope some of the thousands of puppets used by governments, secret societies and the like rise up too...

We go to a kind of "They Live" room where the 'elites' celebrate their 'cleverness'.

A quote from the dude on stage: "Love comes into the eye, and the eye is the window to the soul." Which is bullshit, love only comes into the eye in a culture obsessed with visuals.
Max shoots him in front of four zodiac cross like symbols with a central Eye. He goes down and freaky damn organs start growing out of his head and body. Woot, you create a monster you get eaten by it.

Max is already gone and we see him walking over a rail road track, he finds his way inside somewhere, it's a dump with a mattress and a tv.

Blondie is on the tv, obviously: "I was hoping you'd be back. I'm here to guide you Max, I've learned a lot since I last saw you, I learned that death is not the end. I can help you."
Max: "I don't know where I am now, having trouble... finding my way around."
Blondie: "That's because you've gone about as far as you can with the way things are. Videodrome still exists, it's very big, very complex. You hurt them but you haven't destroyed them, to do that you have to go on to the next phase."
Max: What phase is that?
Blondie: "Your body has already done a lot of changing, but that's only the beginning, the beginning of the new flesh. You have to go all the way now, total transformation. Do you think you're ready?"
Max: "Yes I am, I'll do it."
Blondie: "To become the new flesh you first have to kill the old flesh. But don't be afraid. Don't be afraid to let your body die. Just come to me max, come to nicky, watch, I'll show you how, it's easy..."

Made me think of "You can't win, Darth. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine." - so as in his mortal life the caterpillar has gone to PUPPET, to evolve to a butterfly he'll have to kill himself... may be a metaphor to kill the puppet caterpillar's old personality and rigid reality tunnel before the butterfly can find freedom and soar. Let's take it another route, if there's consciousness after death, how would getting killed serve the greater good? If you're still an awareness mess you'd get lost in the Bhardos, maybe with sufficient progress in this life you could reincarnate even more powerfully. Or if you ascend to higher dimensions, perhaps you assist the ECCO Earth Coincidence Control Center to arrange synchronicities for others. I'm winging it theoretically here.

and he sees him pointing a gun at himself on tv,
"long live the new flesh" and the tv explodes

and then he does it himself. End of movie.

Daily Conspiracy: G.I. JOKE (tragicomedy)

"There are no righteous wars." Ezra Pound

I thought the good guys didn't use
# False Flag Operations
# Invasions
# Torture in Secret Prisons
# Propaganda
# Chemical Weapons
# Civilian Prison Labor Camps
# ...


"Naturally, the common people don't want war, but they can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.Tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and endangering the country. It works the same in every country."
Nazi Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

A real American zero
False Flag Ops: Pearl Harbor (allowed to happen), USS Liberty attack, 9/11, 7/7 London, 3/11 Madrid are just some of the best known...
Invasions and 'foreign policy meddling': too much to mention, seriously. Bully of the world.
Torture in Secret Prisons: Guantanamo Bay, Abu Ghraib (Any intelligent life forms out there who think they just take humiliating pictures? :p)
Or find your way to the 'secret' prisons of Egypt, Morocco, Uzbekistan, Pakistan & Syria through flights with the help of European countries like Germany, The Netherlands and Spain to mention a few! (How fast can you say COVER-UP!?)
Chemical Weapons: Variations of Napalm and a little thing called White Phosphor in Iraq, who knows where else.
Propaganda: Watch any US news show online somewhere, it's tragically hilarious. (even compared to your own country's sad news broadcasts.)
Then think about how the terrorists 'hate them for their freedom!' lol WHAT freedom? The freedom to be told only what they need to know! And the worst thing is most Americans think only the spineless democrats will be able to save them. Real journalists that tried to real bring news in Baghdad were fired upon by an American tank in the Palestine Hotel in Baghdad.
Civilian Prison Labor Camps: This is where the Nazi comparisons stop being funny ok? These camps are based on military installations and provide 'cheap labor' by supposed terrorists and ... 'fifth column citizens', supposedly disloyal Americans who sympathize and collaborate with the enemy!
Private Armies: American corporations private soldiers with no honor code, chain of command or accountability are interrogating, torturing and killing people in the Middle East, driven by profit they are paid way more than their government soldier counterparts. These companies have ex-military personnel securing contracts worth millions of dollars. American tax money is funding atrocities in the Middle East.

THE CRAZY FUCKING BASTARDS JUST LEGALIZED TORTURE!!!
Which is being performed by Private Armies with no Code of Honor or Chain of Command...

"There is many a boy here who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell."
General William T. Sherman


"He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice."
Albert Einstein

"Military justice is to justice what military music is to music."
Groucho Marx

If you want thanks for removing Saddam... you shouldn't have made all his atrocities possible with years of funding and weapons. Iraq doesn't seem to be doing a lot better though and you couldn't even find the WMD's you had the receipt of! And btw, Osama Bin who?

"The enemy agressor is always pursuing a course of larceny, murder, rapine and barbarism. We are always moving forward with high mission, a destiny imposed by the Deity to regenerate our victims while incidentally capturing their markets, to civilize savage and senile and paranoidal peoples while blundering accidentally into their oil wells or metal mines."
John T. Flynn - As we go marching

"I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all members of the military profession I never had an original thought until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of the higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service."
Major General Smedley Butler

"One of the amusing by-products of war is its pricking of the fundamental democratic delusion. For years Homo Boobus stalks the earth vaingloriously, flapping his wings over his God-given rights, his inalienable freedom, his sublime equality to his masters. Then of a sudden he is thrust into a training camp and discovers that he is a slave, after all - that even his life is not his own."
H.L. Mencken - Minority Report

"A free government with an uncontrolled power of military conscription is the most ridiculous and abominable contradiction and nonsense that ever entered into the head of man."
Daniel Webster, Speech in the House of Representatives, January 14 1814.

"In 1938, for most of the men of our tribe, The Depression ended as mysteriously as it had begun. The Navy Yard in Brooklyn was hiring longshoremen again, in great droves... Everybody knew this sudden good luck had its sinister side. The Navy Yard was busy because the government was tooling up for another war... Roosevelt said he was not going to get us into the war. He promised he would keep us out of the war. My father said that Woodrow Wilson had made the same promises and then connived us into the first world war anyway."
Robert Anton Wilson

~ Disclaimer ~
"I don't hate America. I'm not a terrorist. I don't support terrorism. I'm just cursed with ethics!
Support the troops? I don't support killers of any kind."
captain obvious