Thursday, November 15, 2012

May I direct your attention to the abysmal state of the NLP wikipedia page and the very bleak future of psychology and mental health

This is gonna be an emotional post, now forgive me as I'm not an author or a scholar and this won't come off too professional, it will be personal, but hey, someone's gotta do it. Give this filth a read taken from the Neuro-linguistic Programming page:
Reviews of empirical research on NLP indicate that NLP contains numerous factual errors,[10][12] and has failed to produce reliable results for the claims for effectiveness made by NLP's originators and proponents.[5][13] According to Devilly,[14] NLP is no longer as prevalent as it was in the 1970s and 1980s. Criticisms go beyond the lack of empirical evidence for effectiveness; critics say that NLP exhibits pseudoscientific characteristics,[14] title,[3] concepts and terminology.[6][15] NLP is used as an example of pseudoscience for facilitating the teaching of scientific literacy at the professional and university level.[7][16][17] NLP also appears on peer reviewed expert-consensus based lists of discredited interventions.[5] In research designed to identify the "quack factor" in modern mental health practice, Norcross et al. (2006) [15] list NLP as possibly or probably discredited, and in papers reviewing discredited interventions for substance and alcohol abuse, Norcross et al. (2010)[18] list NLP in the top ten most discredited, and Glasner-Edwards and Rawson (2010) list NLP as "certainly discredited".[19]
Now, I'm the first to admit that there are a lot of problems with NLP. Let me sum up a few: The exaggerated claims of some of the techniques. The insane cost price for getting certified as a Practitioner and even greater cost for getting certified as a teacher and the poor teaching of these courses at that. (I've learned everything I know online, and refuse to give these people this kind of money.) Heaping up too many techniques that are not proven to work well. Teachers and practitioners giving the field a bad name, naturally many kooky people are attracted to it. Richard Bandler's attitude...

Here are the facts that I've learned in my very short usage of NLP. I've helped two people overcome huge obstacles in their life, two, because those were the only clients I helped with NLP treatment, for free - you can see why I didn't persue a career in it, I couldn't find any clients, not even for free, that's how people value their mental sanity, but material crap, oh! That's way more important. I've helped a few more people with meditation advice and general help concerning the 8 circuit model. But pure NLP treatments, only two.

The first lady, had linked her overwhelming stress from her work as a nurse in a hospital, to getting into her car right after work. She could not drive a car anymore. Her mountain of stress was hardwired linked to getting into a car. Here's what I did, performed a swish-exercise were you summon the heavy problem-behaviour and replace it with a desired behaviour. She was a kinesthetic person (her primary sense was feeling) so we did it standing up and using feelings, hearing and sound. After the session, I did a short hypnosis session for her. We had to restart it because when "going down" the first time, she actually felt like she was falling. After the hypnosis, I dangled my keys in front of her and said let's go. She was ok with it, but would do it at home (not wanting to drive my car.) She has driven her car ever since that day. 
What would a psychologist or psychiatrist have done? Listened to her? Drugged her into driving her car? They would have syphoned money out this woman for months with 0 result.

The second, was a woman who was abused by her then partner. This motherfucking piece of shit monster, and there are millions, if not billions like this piece of shit on this planet, used to choke her. When trying to sleep, she saw and felt his hands grasping around her neck, her average sleep was around 3 hours a night. Do I have to tell you how bad one feels with 3 hours of sleep a night? 

I did a swish replacement session with her. Focusing on visuals, sounds and feelings. One example I remember is we changed the hands into the wings of a butterfly that flew away. Since then, 8 hours of sleep. 
What would a psychologist or a psychiatrist have done. Listened to her? Drugged her into sleep? They would have syphoned money out of this woman with 0 result.

Now I used to work for a company that produced vitamins. Everyday, we'd get tons of notes from doctors showing they prescribed the vitamins, and they'd get a percentage of that. The number of these were shocking and I was glad to get out of there, sure they're vitamins so they're not poison, but you can't honestly tell me that telling these people to eat healthier wouldn't have been better than prescribing food, money.
Guess what happens with anti-depressives and psychiatrists. You wonder why so many people are on anti-depressants, turned into near-fucking-zombies and some of them even going on killing sprees because apparently these drugs fuck with your empathy so bad, most of the shootings you hear in the news are done by sad fucks on anti-depressants. I know people on anti-depressants, and I don't want them near me. I also know most of them don't need those drugs, at all. They are giving this crap to kids now. Not even giving them a chance to grow emotionally into adulthood.

So here's our future. A field so broken with people disillusioned they are unwilling to learn from others. A money making scheme so evil and sad, you'd think it fiction. Please consider though, that there are a number of psychologists and psychiatrists that are using these techniques and my admiration towards them is infinite.

Consider this, how many people are broken? Do you know people with traumas? These are not regular humans, these people are broken in ways people with no traumas can not imagine. These people in turn affect their children and the people around them, and on occasion break a few people themselves. I've had a girlfriend so afraid of intimacy, the only reason being her mother was completely sexually broken by her family. She experienced none of this but was so afraid of what could happen that she closed herself off entirely. 

Consider all the kinds of abuse people inflict on eachother, and the vicious cycle it creates. The teachers, priests and people in power who abuse that power in a way we don't want to think about. Realize it will take centuries, if not millenia before we have a healthier society, we might already be wiped off the planet before it happens.

Here's what i know, some techniques of NLP work. They will fix a person's major lifelong problem in a half hour and we should use it and never unlearn them if we want a healthy future. Otherwise what we're looking at is a future of drugged idiots, who may or may not take a gun and start shooting around, creating even more broken and traumatized people and the cycle continues.

Good luck humanity, looks like you'll need it.


Jonnie said...

Insightful and inspiring post. can you share with us where you got yourself informed about NLP? and i mean 'where' as in sites and books and stuff.

NLP's been on my periphery for a while but i've felt a bit overwhelmed with knowing where to begin, much you like said in the post it's a bit of minefield if you want solid, reliable and accurate information and teaching.

i'll bet there's countless others in the same position too.

Dedroidify said...

Hiya Jonnie, I recommend Chris Howard - NLP & Leadership Master Practitioner Training, it's a big cd set and you can get it from torrent websites. Richard Bandler's audio and books can be inspiring too though they include a lot of randomness.

Puer Aeternus said...

Keep your head what YOU DO best and let your reputation build on YOUR merits. its not the NLP....its you that is helping people, and more importantly, clients dont realize that it is they that are doing a lot of the self healing, you are just the catalyst. I had a background in healing,trained in Polarity Therapy, Massage, tarot and even..sigh..Reiki. The courses helped me w/ a base from which to start but experience and inspiration is what really helped. I gave up that field as there was no money to be made but I did help people. Sadly there are too many flakes out there ripping people off, reiki anyone!!! People getting their certificates in a weekend, cough *reiki *cough. and some bad science going along w/ the teachings. I know science wont fit into a lot of modalities that do get results, but thats the catch 22, people want some sort of evidence that this works....however, miracles happen, and its nearly impossible to prove why people heal from a psychic healer, hands on treatment, a shaman singing or ritual magick. This is off track of your NLP post...I just wanted to inspired, continue to inspire others and if this is your path...the clients will come. You have much more to offer than just NLP..ive been following your blog for years and can see how you can inspire. let go of the 3 letters...NLP...embrace these 3 "YOU"!!!

Puer Aeternus said...

apologies if I contradicted myself in the walt whitman says "Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes."

Dedroidify said...

Puer Aeternus thanks an amazing lot for those inspiring words x) That was so helpful :) Excellently put! Thank YOU x)

Who Else? said...

I'm amazed by the wiki content for NLP. Shocked that a page can 'officially' discredit what has been seen as effective. I am a hypnotherapist and from time to time incorporate NLP techniques into my practice and clients of mine have gotten life changing results from stress reduction to smoking cessation even in a single session. I had just looked into the scientific journals which claimed the ineffectiveness of hypnosis in relation to smoking cessation. One report's conclusions were made without the inclusion of the methods used by hypnotherapists around the world. It was a basic 'hynotherapy' session without any details of the modalities and the level of expertise of the hypnotherapists used in the study. Anyway, thanks for sharing your bit. I would agree that we are far from any drastic changes which could take centuries. I've been following your blog since 2009 and just showin' you some love as well. =P

Dedroidify said...

Heya Who Else?! So nice that you been following dedroidify for so long!

Loads of respect to you for being a hypnotherapist and using NLP in your practice!
Makes sense that their "science" is anything but, I bet a few of them got a few bucks from drug companies too...

Love right back at ya!