tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7336380116614011842.post4802932082405452452..comments2023-10-25T10:32:38.246+02:00Comments on Dedroidify: Peter Joseph of Zeitgeist on Alex JonesAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11053428354491490624noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7336380116614011842.post-28264545342136107672008-10-19T23:30:00.000+02:002008-10-19T23:30:00.000+02:00Sorry Lady Caritas I call BS on about everything y...Sorry Lady Caritas I call BS on about everything you said<BR/><BR/>PJ exposed religion through the occult symbolist corner stones it is built on. <BR/>Every major religion can be broken down this way, through astrotheology, entheogenic symbolism and archetypes. <BR/>It does NOT in any way mean creating a new religion. There is not a single hint at this, where some people get this I can only sigh about.<BR/><BR/>Mysticism or spirituality, or Alchemy - whatever you wanna call it - does not involve believing, but EXPERIENCING and learning from all views. <BR/>A "new look" on Spirituality is not a New World Religion, especially because it cannot be forced or dogmatic or it is not spirituality.<BR/><BR/>Religion is something to evolve beyond, because it is a belief system, and believing does not involve any thinking. Believing is "stupid", it is "blindly accepting". And neither zeitgeist movie hints at a new world religion, so try to re-think this.<BR/><BR/>Jacque Fresco is clear about this too, more conscious use of language and more flexibility in belief - I call to eradicate this wretched concept from the human mind. It is perfectly possible.<BR/><BR/>The message of this blog is "Evolve beyond Belief Systems" and Zeitgeist embodies that completely. Both movies, from start to finish.<BR/><BR/>What a lot of - mostly dogmatic religious or dogmatic materialist - conspiracy theorists BELIEVE is that a new religion is being forced, these people seem to totally ignore that the New Age belief system is RIDICULED not only by the religious, but the materialists AND the spiritual/mystics/occultists/alchemists... so how the hell do these people expect this belief system to be sold? Not with any of the silly theories already out there, I can assure you.<BR/><BR/>The new age belief system is just terribly dumbed down and comercialized perverted spirituality which the gullible "believe in" - while true spirituality/mysticism/alchemy is experimented with, and experienced, and does not require "belief".<BR/><BR/>They also don't seem to get that it's not that easy to destroy a religion. The Belief System is too rigid. It filters out anything that doesn't fit and confirms everything that does. In case someone hasn't noticed already, nobody is going to be able to conver the American Christians for instance, they're too closeminded for it. Sorry!<BR/><BR/>Evil to me seems to be born out of ignorance, this is philosophy 101. Like I said in the post, but of course, just ignore that... Evil is a human word and concept, it is silly to think it exists in and out of itself.<BR/><BR/>What people who say "Alex still has hope" don't understand is he doesn't show it, nearly ever, lol. And he intends to keep a hierarchical system, take back politics, and keep capitalism, yay great, so the world will be what, a little less corrupt. Wow, what lack of ambition.<BR/><BR/>"you need to try and go out and define for yourself, christianity, its core beliefs, its adherents and what type of people they will create, then the same for the other major religions, then you will discover the same thing I did, that there is another religion out there, that carries aspects of each one, and does everything to the contrary."<BR/><BR/>ROFL, I'm sorry but... you fail. What you describe as the "religion" one that carries aspects<BR/>of all the others, is not a religion at all. But simply occult (hidden) symbolism. If you need to call the sum of that a religion, religion is defined in some dictionaries as "a strong belief", how do you believe in occult symbolism? You are just aware of it.<BR/><BR/>Good luck on your path, how can people end up so confused...Dedroidifyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04099287776750072366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7336380116614011842.post-9594590043020759632008-10-19T10:33:00.000+02:002008-10-19T10:33:00.000+02:00Absolutely a lot of what is in ZA is truthful, tha...Absolutely a lot of what is in ZA is truthful, thats because it all stands on the shoulders of other people's work, that movie is a flashy compilation in overly simplistic terms of what has already been stated by people like alex jones, alan watt, and movies like, the money masters and loose change. <BR/><BR/>i am not in any organized religion but i can see clearly that religions are being neutralized, in america we are being told to be afraid of "radical muslims" who "hate our freedoms" the truth is, those people are just being eliminated for a new system to come into being, and for that guy to sit there and sell the same plato's republic idea is very sad.<BR/><BR/>If you have to "re-educate" people away from where they are now so they will "be ready" for some new world, then he does not want peace. <BR/><BR/>what he wants is some other form of totalitarian religion and he does not even approach who is going to run it, we know it will be the "guardian class" when alex asked him if he believed in evil the first time he said "absolutely not" obviously, the man has not done his homework, evil does exist and so does good, its not a matter of degree or old religious terminology, his arguments sound so much like "do what thou wilt", i would have agreed with joseph a year ago, but i cant go with him knowing what i know now<BR/><BR/> what people dont understand about alex is that he still has hope, he is trying to save people, i know he has read the same things i have because of jokes he says that go over people's heads since they havent read all that boring stuff, and he has choosen to be christian, i have not, my first law is "know thyself" when you know yourself alex's belief is a beautiful flower full of excitement and vigour that i would paint a picture of, but i cannot be because its not me, its him and fine the way it is. <BR/><BR/>you need to try and go out and define for yourself, christianity, its core beliefs, its adherents and what type of people they will create, then the same for the other major religions, then you will discover the same thing I did, that there is another religion out there, that carries aspects of each one, and does everything to the contrary. this will involve you reading every holy text you can get your hands on, mahabarata, zen mind beginners mind, is very very helpful, then you will figure out what i mean. this is a morpheus type excercise so please cautionSovereignhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12640220618641396010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7336380116614011842.post-89065585675915066932008-10-18T17:57:00.000+02:002008-10-18T17:57:00.000+02:00Some friendly advice Cale:Do not try to convince s...Some friendly advice Cale:<BR/><BR/>Do not try to convince someone, make them question instead. This is seduction more than convincing, and seduction is appealing to the ego, convincing is threatening. <BR/><BR/>The Alex Jones argument can be deflected easily, <BR/><BR/>AJ being responsible for 9/11 theories is like saying "Bush is responsible for all the corruption by himself."<BR/><BR/>Name several websites like engineers and pilots for 9/11 truth.<BR/><BR/>etc.<BR/><BR/>Peace!Dedroidifyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04099287776750072366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7336380116614011842.post-45887617914715772942008-10-18T04:51:00.000+02:002008-10-18T04:51:00.000+02:00Whenever I try to convince someone about 9/11 they...Whenever I try to convince someone about 9/11 they always bring up Alex Jones and how ridiculous he is and insist that all my information could be traced back to him. In that respect I think he handicaps the truth movement almost as much as he helps it.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16091418500872426736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7336380116614011842.post-65258274239016652872008-10-17T14:28:00.000+02:002008-10-17T14:28:00.000+02:00tis possible indeed leaf maybe you are, I know I a...tis possible indeed leaf <BR/><BR/>maybe you are, I know I am, haha ;p<BR/><BR/>peaceDedroidifyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04099287776750072366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7336380116614011842.post-82305140704212582722008-10-17T12:42:00.000+02:002008-10-17T12:42:00.000+02:00More than that dedroidify, to me it seems to imply...More than that dedroidify, to me it seems to imply Alex's masculine dominance of Peter - not to use the word rape - but yeah, there it is.<BR/><BR/>I think Mr. Jones knows exactly how to manipulate imagery to speak directly to the audience's subconscious. To me it looks like he's almost forking Peter, as he looks down, ashamed. That's what I see anyway, maybe I'm weird.l e a fhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14180825639493562884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7336380116614011842.post-15393178575065420692008-10-17T12:18:00.000+02:002008-10-17T12:18:00.000+02:00Yeah leaf, to me that picture screams "taking myse...Yeah leaf, to me that picture screams "taking myself way too seriously"Dedroidifyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04099287776750072366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7336380116614011842.post-34630071117636474852008-10-17T06:25:00.000+02:002008-10-17T06:25:00.000+02:00OML he is annoying... His constant manipulative in...OML he is annoying... His constant manipulative interruptions, babbling tirades, that condescending little kid voice he uses to taunt Peter - ugh! He wanted an adversary not a 'guest' on his show. You don't treat guests that way.<BR/><BR/>BTW Anyone else notice the implications of the banner image he uses for the vid? Peter looking all shy and effeminate, Alex (behind him even) looks masculine, 'probing' and serious lol.l e a fhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14180825639493562884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7336380116614011842.post-86941016770722091342008-10-16T20:01:00.000+02:002008-10-16T20:01:00.000+02:00Hehehe, excellent.Thanks for dropping by SteveHehehe, excellent.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for dropping by SteveDedroidifyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04099287776750072366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7336380116614011842.post-91913363520897877452008-10-16T19:13:00.000+02:002008-10-16T19:13:00.000+02:00Hehe, according to me he didn't have to "try" at a...Hehe, according to me he didn't have to "try" at all to come off intellectually superior to Alex.<BR/><BR/>Though obviously he was irritated, if someone barked at me like Alex - I don't know how I would have reacted. But the constant language Alex was using like that just seemed like an O'Reilly tactic to draw out aggression from the guest, and PJ did well IMO.<BR/><BR/>Both guys are still human after all.<BR/><BR/>Peace nightghostDedroidifyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04099287776750072366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7336380116614011842.post-77466873906986178902008-10-16T19:05:00.000+02:002008-10-16T19:05:00.000+02:00I thought Mr. Joseph tried to come off as intellec...I thought Mr. Joseph tried to come off as intellectually superior and would up looking like a hypocritical moron.Christopher Darren Hornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04538037046604165738noreply@blogger.com