Saturday, August 16, 2008

Charles Manson interviews


Charles Manson Interview with Geraldo Rivera.

Last Manson post for a while. Also check out this one with Tom Snyder. Both interviewers are so obnoxious the majority of youtube viewer comments cheer on Manson lol. These interviews seemed to be inspiration for the movie Natural Born Killers. Some hilarious and tense moments. Manson shows some excellent moments of clarity concerning the system and different reality tunnels here and there, but is evasive as ever about his responsibility. One thing that crossed my mind about all that, is that Manson could have wanted to emulate the president - who gives orders for all kinds of atrocities and is untouched too, although it didn't really work out.

Added: PseudOccult Media had a post on Manson, check it out.

John Lilly's Simulations of God - Science of Belief excerpt 3 God as Science

Earlier excerpt and another one, and the book download link.

God as Science
Western science became divided into two major movements: experimental science, which depended upon careful observation and experiment, and mathematics, which depended upon an intuitive grasp of abstract principles and the reduction of these to equations and functions expressible by a new symbology. Several mistakes were made by commentators on this scene. One of them was that science was neglecting sources of information other than that from the natural external world and experiments upon that world. In an almost underground way the subjective aspects of experience were paid court by the mathematicians and their intuitive sources of inner knowledge, examined and expressed in a disciplined, careful "inner experimental" way.

For those who think that science originates in the external reality, I ask the question: "Where does mathematics come from?" This is as deep a mystery as the mystical experiences of the Eastern philosophers and mystics. The "Yoga of the West" is divided into the "Mathematical Yoga" and the "Experimental Science Yoga." Each of these disciplines requires just as much discipline, mastery of self, and ability of inner and outer actions as anything imported from India, China or Japan. In my teaching experience, teaching science of the West and teaching technique from the East, I find that those who need the least teaching, i.e., who already have the self-discipline necessary to master any of these techniques, are those in the West who are trained in mathematics and/or science.

...As a student of science, I was shocked to realize that scientists depend upon mechanics, and mechanics depend upon previous mechanics who taught them their trade. I was shocked also to find that metallurgy was not yet a science; it was an empirical technological, heuristic, pragmatic, empirical art. When I was working in scientific instrumentation, I discovered that most of the knowledge I needed was not in scientific journals or the scientific textbooks at all; it was in engineering handbooks, it was in various "how to do" manuals from technology, it was in books like John Strong's Procedures in Experimental Physics. These sources depend not upon scientific experiments so much as "try it - if it works, use it." I found that to be a scientist I could be a technologist, a mechanic, a carpenter, a plumber, an electrician, a wire man, a circuit designer, an optician, a bacteriologist, a farmer and so forth. True science is imbedded in practically every human activity that one can conceive of. It is not something alone, by itself, apart from the rest of the reality of human existence.

I make these points in order to show that it is totally inappropriate to make science into God. Science is the result of human activity; it is not something God-given and forced upon the human race by some superior being. And yet there are those in legislatures, in public life, in the media, in the performing arts, who have not been educated in science and thus put it on some sort of pedestal and worship it as if it were a god. This can be extremely dangerous; it means that one is setting up a w hole sphere of human knowledge, of human activity, as if seperate from oneself and hence subject to attack or to worship, or whatever else one wants to do with this simulation.
Once one simulates Science as if God, or as if the Devil, he has lost contact with it. It now is in the position of a paranoid system of delusion which he can then treat unrealistically and as if not part of his own planetside trip. As is discussed in other chapters of this book, science has much to offer - in the region of cosmology, for example, in the region of submicroscopic reality, in reality, in the region of explaning the operations of our own brain. I agree with those who maintain that science is only the best application to our planetside trip of the best thinking of which man is capable (and I would include in the planetside trip the inner realities as well as the other realities). Science is not something to be worshipped; science is something to be acquired as one's own thinking machinery can assimilate it, as one's own biocomputer can be trained by it. Science literally is a Yoga, a union with our own humanity, a union with the universe as it exists, not as we may wish it to be.

Science of itself is ruthlessly indifferent. It is an expression of the state of High Indifference. Science does not take sides; its products can be used to kill, to create, or to grow. Science as we know it is now capable of feeding adequately every human being on the face of the Earth. Science as we know it is now capable of turning the seas into vast farms, of turning the deserts into green paradises. The proper use of science could make a veritable Eden of our planet, without pollution and with a balanced view of the totality of all species of plants and animals. Science can then function as a benign god rather as the devil that we make of it when we worship God as War, God as Righteous Wrath, God as Power, and so forth. Science is our handservant, science is our concubine, science is our wife, science is our husband, science is our children, science is our thinking, science is our feeling, science is our doing.

Robert Anton Wilson: Don't Be Afraid of Black Magick

Article written by Robert Anton Wilson for "Gnostica" about Black Magick. (If you sign up for scribd you can download the pdfs. And at the top right-side of the document there's a fullscreen button.) Here is just a little excerpt:
The Big Lie
The old theological cliché that the Devil is the "Father of Lies" contains an important neuropolitical truth. Occult knowledge beings with the realization that the ordinary reality of the conditioned citizen is somewhere around 99.97 percent mythology.

Mindwarping, brainwashing, demonology, the hurling of curses, etc., begin with the barefaced lie that the mindwarper's alternate reality is not mythology at all but "really" "real."
The Satanist's reality is real. So is Rev. Sun Myung Moon's. And the nudist reality. The snake-worshipper's reality. The Methodist reality. The Republican reality. The SLA reality. The Buddhist reality. The vegetarian reality. The scientfic reality.
Everyone of these realities is "real" to the nervous system programmed to convert all incoming energy-signals into the coding (language categories) of that "reality," and to exclude as backgorund noise all signals not fitting the code.
The Biggest Lie in the World is the idea that there is one "true" reality. That is the lie which keeps the conditioned citizen trapped in the one static reality imprinted by parents and schools in childhood. It is the lie which the Black Magician exploits in making the demons of his reality in your reality.
America is the greatest country in the world, to the conditioned American. Fernando Poo is the greatest country in the world, to the conditioned Pooan. Catholicism is the one true religion, to the Catholic. Voodoo is the one true religion, to the Voodooist.
Mirrors and blue smoke.

There are dozens of meta-programming rituals in occult manuals, showing how to insulate your reality from attacking demonic forces out of some black magician's separate reality. Some of the best and most commonsensical are in Dion fortune's Psychic Self Defense.
Personally, I regard such rituals as unnecessary, since they take the terrorist too seriously.
Read the entire article here. (3 pages)

Sigil Magick


Sigil Magick

Brother Ali - Uncle Sam Goddamn


Brother Ali - Uncle Sam Goddamn

Daily Conspiracy: Michael Tsarion GodsOtherDevil Remix


Michael Tsarion: God's other Devil Remix

Check out more vids from Godsotherdevil

Friday, August 15, 2008

John Lilly's Simulations of God - Science of Belief excerpt 2 God as War

Earlier excerpt and book download link.

Excerpt 2 from John Lilly's Simulations of God - Science of Belief. In this one John Lilly's stretches our associations of war.

GOD AS WAR
In the old-fashioned sense, God as War, War as an instrument of God as is recounted in the Bible, war between small villages in the Middle East, is not to be compared with modern warfare simultaneously involving several hundreds of millions of people. The old Gods of War are too small for modern human society. The Jewish God is too small. Baal and Maloch are too small. Ra is too small. Kali is too small. And the philosophies of all these ancient Gods and all the other ancient Gods, such as Huitzilopochtli and Tezcatlipoca of the Aztecs, are too small.

...If either the Spaniards of the Aztecs had had atomic energy at their disposal, the planet would probably have become sterilized. We no longer can afford God as War. We now have God-like instruments of destruction. Our God must be greater than a protagonist in human battle.
The basic assumption that "We are right and they are wrong" also must be treated as a delusion. As a substitute for violence we must negotiate; we must bring disparate belief systems into congruence through communication, not through violence. The language barriers of the world must not only be crossed but toppled. The belief barriers of the world must be diminished to the point of triviality. All modern technology must be used to increase the knowledge of all peoples throughout the planet. National security boundaries must be abolished bilaterally. Self-righteous virtue and concerted anger must be denied to those in power. Profit through war must be abolished.

It may be that all the above reasoning is idealistic and totally wrong. It may be that war on our planet is the result of orders sent to the human species from other superior civilizations hundreds, thousands, or millions of years in advance of ours. War may be a laboratory for the development of weapons to be used elsewhere. War may be the supreme form of human achievement. It may be that our short-term view of the destruction of human bodies, of human vehicles, one by the other, is a technique for freeing up essences needed elsewhere in our galaxy or the unvierse. If we want to continue with God as War, some such belief systems as this must be carefully taught to al peoples on Earth. There are various methods for such teaching. For example, we can declare that it is necessary for the Americans and Chiense to carry on their military research and their testing of new material in real wars in order to develop super-weapons which will eventually could be used against extraterrestrial invaders.
Further alternatives are that the screams of the dying, the pain, the terror, the panic of war, all telepathically broadcast throughout our galaxy, may be needed as energy - as food or as fuel - somewhere else in the galaxy.

It may be that Earth is merely a small portion of some other beings' laboratory in which they are testing out various ways of exciting various kinds of organisms to high energy states. It may be that the supervisors of this laboratory must every so often dump some sort of destructive antibiotic activity on us, the bacteria, to keep our numbers in control. It may be that they finally have furnished us with the formulae for our own antibiotics. We, as the bacteria in the laboratory they have set up on this planet, are merely living out their instructions. These instructions involve observing how organisms with our size brain can kill one another most efficiently. These superextraterrestrial beings furnish us with ideas of God, of the devil, of prophets, of power, of inflated egos, of megalomanic belief systems in order to play games in their laboratory.

Or it may be that we are just simulation computers at the behest of very much larger computers who are in control of us, and that we are simulating a war they are waging among themselves; or that they have agreed to take sides on this planet, some controlling one side and others controlling the other side. These lesser gods of cosmic war games are undetectable to us because we have post-hypnotic trance orders to forget the fact that we are under their orders. Our simulation does not include the simulation of Them. Our orders say: "Accept the orders that we give you in sleep. When you are awake do what we have dictated and forget that we gave you these orders in sleep."

Paranoia has two components. We forget that paranoia includes a megalomanic center-of-the-universe arrogance. This state could easily have been programmed into us by Them. The only additional component needed to start a war would then be fear. Fear is easily excited because it has been built into the biocomptuers as a survival program. Many things - including the natural forces - can be used to excite fear. Start a hurricane or a typhoon and move it in the right direction across the surface of the earth. Or begin a very large earthquake, or excite a solar flare and cause the particles from the flare to hit the earth's atmosphere, thus changing the mood of all the earth's creatures, including man. Or beam secret information into the world's houses of power - that on the opposite side of the world are you enemies, so go there and kill them.

Such projections of responsibility upon the cosmos in the past were called God. Now we must perform an operation almost out of science fiction in order to simulate the same sort of results. Imbedded in us is a righteous wrath of our own fear, our own megalomania, our own arrogance. When we become angry enough to kill - then is the time to stop, to stand off, to find out how much of our program is biologically determined, how much is determined by communication with others through at-present-unknown channels, and how much is determined by our peer group and by the known physical pathways of communication between humans on this planet. The destroy-to-create simulation either must go or must be carried to its full extreme of totally destroying in order to start totally over somewhere else.

A&E Biography - Charles Manson


A&E Biography - Charles Manson part 1 & The rest

Here's a docu with interviews with Manson (much less spectacular now), and the women of the murders (holy crap). Hallucinogenics and brainwashing gets talked about. It's pretty intense and shows a very different story than what Manson was selling in the interview posted yesterday.

Hyatt's Psychopath's Bible

I read this book from start to finish in around 3 hours yesterday, you can download it here.

I liked the approach Hyatt took in the book 'Undoing yourself' and I guess this sync'd with the Manson vids I've been checking. Though I have to say, it's a twisted book in some ways and I'd only recommend it to people who understand the relativity of belief systems well. I wouldn't give this book to anyone unstable and don't really recommend it to anyone.

There is some real twisted shit in this book lol, but sneakily Hyatt is convincing the potential 'psychopath' reader to be a nice helpful empowered person. From a perspective though that in a mad society the only (zen) way to help people is to make them persist in their folly, so they can come to their own realisations when the dynamics shift. Which is way more helpful than telling people what's wrong with their illusions - because they'll prefer the illusions over the truth most of the time anyway.

My own highest ideal is truth, but I've found too that most people do not share that, and instead prefer the comfort (and relative ignorance) of their belief system. To keep kinda sane socially I have elevated 'fun' to as high or even higher as truth in another main reality tunnel, as I used to be a pessimist - you can imagine how different my life is from ten years ago. Adaptation is the key to survival or something ;p. Though I've also come to understand the relativity of truth itself and how fun and harmony is perhaps more 'real' to pursue, and how some 'sleepwalkers' are having way more fun and fulfillment than some 'seekers'. This is why it helps to learn from anyone, anyone can have associations, perspectives, strategies that can be helpful to you.

Hyatt paints a grim view of the world, but if you have many other views already, one can always find some use for more perceptions. Along with the grim view though he suggests a strong (sometimes questionable though) attitude, a kind of high indifference, with associations over lots of life's ills that empower the individual. Some information was really useful though I'm more of the "example" guy that don't give a damn instead of the social manipulator, the relativity of it all (and the cosmic giggle factor :p) has made me extremely laid back and Hyatt tries to create that attitude as well.

Speaking of duality earlier, Hyatt seems to be quite the Luciferian too, which I guess depending on the interpretation can sometimes be seen as the opposite of humanist? :p So to let go of the attachment of the idealism to preserving human life instead of the sacrifice that is supposedly needed for further evolution. This is heavy stuff. Though I can't say I agree with that, it does help to further understand a Luciferian mindset.
Here are some quotes, the book starts out great with different definitions of the psychopath, which basically is 'someone who doesn't follow regular social convention', a type of "Manson zen" can be seen in this book. The first quote about the DSM is on the money:
"If you've never picked up DSM-IV, we strongly refcommend that you do so. You'll find yourself in it. You'll find your friends and associates in it. You'll find your family members in it. Indeed, you'll find everyone in it. In other words, from the point of view of psychiatry, everyone has a "mental disorder." For psychiatry, there is no such thing as mental health, only degrees of pathology."

"The entire process is a food chain which the Master actively supports and utilizes for his comfort and fun. He knows that everything is part of the problem and that there are no solutions from the conventional point of view. He knows that millions die daily and millions are born to take their place, he knows that the planet is alive as a stomach is alive - it digests everything."

"One of the key factors in understanding why people are so pathetic is that, during the infantile stage of development, they "come to constant erroneous conclusions" as to "what causes what."
In other words, they learn erroneous negotiation strategies right from the very beginning and come up with conclusions about themselves, the world, and their interconnections which they continue to use and be victims of until they are buried alive.
The reason they survive at all is because of "slop" (i.e., most people have the same wrong conclusions.)
Building upon wrong conclusions leads to habits which once ingrained, are difficult if not impossible to break. People's minds become calcified. They blindly proceed through their lives, deceiving themselves and repressing the immense spite they have accumulated over all the years for continuously being treated like children."

"All governments (some might assert that I should have said "authoritarian" governments, but this is, in fact, a redundant notion) count on "their" "citizens" to respond in typical infantile fashion. This includes identifying unconsciously with a more powerful force even if this force enslaves, brutalizes and humiliates you. For most people, slavery is freedom.
Thus, democracy is nothing but a ruse to hide the power and force of this technique. Adolph Hitler was an expert in its use. He knew that the German People wanted to be children with a strong magical father to care for them. However, the German people, like any other group of people, would have felt offended if their nose was rubbed in what they had to become in order to get what they believed they wanted.
The chronic process of making - and being made - the child is a technique at which every bureaucrat and government official is adept. This is fundamentally how the police operate. The Master is an expert in this area."

Howard Bloom , The Lucifer Principle and the human evolution


Howard Bloom , The Lucifer Principle and the human evolution

Notice the angel with its masonic checkerboard wings, recognizing duality in order to soar. I found this video helped to understand the 'Luciferian' mindset. We'll be exploring duality even more later today.

update: here's the complete interview with Richard Metzger of Disinfo.com (24 min)

Bill Bailey: Magic Round About


Bill Bailey Magic Round About

Daily Conspiracy: Man belongs to the Earth 2

The Earth does not belong to man, man belongs to the Earth. (Part 2) Excerpt from The Illuminatus! Trilogy: 1 The Eye in the Pyramid. By Robert Shea & Robert Anton Wilson

"Property is theft," Hagbard said, passing the peace pipe.

"If the BIA helps those real estate developers take our land," Uncle John Feather said, "that will be theft. But if we keep the land, that is certainly not theft."

Night was falling in the Mohawk reservation, but Hagbard saw Sam Three Arrows nod vigorously in the gloom of the small cabin. He felt, again, that American Indians were the hardest people in the world to understand. His tutors had given him a cosmopolitan education, in every sense of the word, and he usually found no blocks in relating to people of any culture, but the Indians did puzzle him at times. After five years of specializing in handling the legal battles of various tribes against the Bureau of Indian Affairs and the land pirates it served, he was still conscious that these people's heads were someplace he couldn't yet reach. Either they were the simplest, or the most sophisticated, society on the planet; maybe, he thought, they were both, and the ultimate simplicity and the ultimate sophistication are identical.

"Property is liberty," Hagbard said. "I am quoting the same man who said property is theft. He also said property is impossible. I speak from the heart. I wish you to understand why I take this case. I wish you to understand in fullness."

Sam Three Arrows drew on the pipe, then raised his dark eyes to Hagbard's. "You mean that justice is not known like a dog who barks in the night? That it is more like the unexpected sound in the woods that must be identified cautiously after hard thinking?"

There it was again: Hagbard had heard the same concreteness of imagery in the speech of the Shoshone at the opposite end of the continent. He wondered, idly, if Ezra Pound's poetry might have been influenced by habits of speech his father acquired from the Indians—Homer Pound had been the first white man born in Idaho. It certainly went beyond the Chinese. And it came, not from books on rhetoric, but from listening to the heart—the Indian metaphor he had himself used a minute ago.

He took his time about answering: he was beginning to acquire the Indian habit of thinking a long while before speaking.

"Property and justice are water," he said finally. "No man can hold them long. I have spent many years in courtrooms, and I have seen property and justice change when a man speaks, change as the caterpillar changes to the butterfly. Do you understand me? I thought I had victory in my hands, and then the judge spoke and it went away. Like water running through the fingers."

Uncle John Feather nodded. "I understand. You mean we will lose again. We are accustomed to losing. Since George Washington promised us these lands 'as long as the mountain stands and the grass is green,' and then broke his promise and stole part of them back in ten years—in ten years, my friend!—we have lost, always lost

We have one acre left of each hundred promised- to us then."

"We may not lose," Hagbard said. "I promise you, the BIA will at least know they have been in a fight this time. I learn more tricks, and get nastier, each time I go into a courtroom. I am very tricky and very nasty by now. But I am less sure of myself than I was when I took my first case. I no longer understand what I am fighting. I have a word for it—the Snafu Principle, I call it—but I do not understand what it is."

There was another pause. Hagbard heard the lid on the garbage can in back of the cabin rattling: that was the raccoon that Uncle John Feather called Old Grandfather come to steal his evening dinner. Property was theft, certainly, in Old Grandfather's world, Hagbard thought.

"I am also puzzled," Sam Three Arrows said finally. "I worked, long ago, in New York City, in construction, like many young men of the Mohawk Nation. I found that whites were often like us, and I could not hate them one at a time. But they do not know the earth or love it. They do not speak from the heart, usually. They do not act from the heart. They are more like the actors on the movie screen. They play roles. And their leaders are not like our leaders. They are not chosen for virtue, but for their skill at playing roles. Whites have told me this, in plain words. They do not trust their leaders, and yet they follow them. When we do not trust a leader, he is finished. Then, also, the leaders of the whites have too much power. It is bad for a man to be obeyed too often. But the worst thing is what I have said about the heart. Their leaders have lost it and they have lost mercy. They speak from somewhere else. They act from somewhere else. But from where? Like you, I do not know. It is, I think, a kind of insanity." He looked at Hagbard and added politely. "Some are different."

It was a long speech for him, and it stirred something in Uncle John Feather. "I was in the army," he said. "We went to fight a bad white man, or so the whites told us. We had meetings that were called orientation and education. There were films. It was to show us how this bad white man was doing terrible things in his country. Everybody was angry after the films, and eager to fight. Except me. I was only there because the army paid more than an Indian can earn anywhere else. So I was not angry, but puzzled. There was nothing that this white leader did that the white leaders in this country do not also do. They told us about a place named Lidice. It was much like Wounded Knee. They told us of families moved thousands of miles to be destroyed. It was much like the Trail of Tears. They told us of how this man ruled his nation, so that none dared disobey him. It was much like the way white men work in corporations in New York City, as Sam has described it to me. I asked another soldier about this, a black white man. He was easier to talk to than the regular white man. I asked him what he thought of the orientation and education. He said it was shit, and he spoke from the heart! I thought about it a long time, and I knew he was right. The orientation and education was shit. When the men from the BIA come here to talk, it is the same. Shit. But let me tell you this: the Mohawk Nation is losing its soul. Soul is not like breath or blood or bone and it can be taken in ways no man understands. My grandfather had more soul than I have, and the young men have less than me. But I have enough soul to talk to Old Grandfather, who is a raccoon now. He thinks as a raccoon and he is worried about the raccoon nation, more than I am worried about the Mohawk Nation. He thinks the raccoon nation will die soon, and all the nations of the free and wild animals. That is a terrible thing and it frightens me. When the nations of the animals die, the earth will also die. That is an old teaching and I cannot doubt it. I see it happening, already. If they steal more of our land to build that dam, more of our soul will die, and more of the souls of the animals will die! The earth will die, and the stars will no longer shine! The Great Mother herself may die!" The old man was crying unashamedly. "And it will be because men do not speak words but speak shit!"

Hagbard had turned pale beneath his olive skin. "You're coming into court," he said slowly, "and you're going to tell the judge that, in exactly those words."

...

Federal Court for the 17th District of New York State. Plaintiffs: John Feather, Samuel Arrows, et al. Defendants: Bureau of Indian Affairs, Department of the Interior, and President of the United States. For plaintiffs: Hagbard Celine. For the defendants: George Kharis, John Alucard, Thomas Moriarity, James Moran. Presiding: Justice Quasimodo Immhotep.

MR. FEATHER (concluding): And it will be because men do not speak words but speak shit! MR. KHARIS: Your honor, I move that the last speech be stricken from the record as irrelevant and immaterial. We are dealing here with a practical question, the need of the people of New York for this dam, and Mr. Feather's superstitions are totally beside the point.

MR. CELINE: Your honor, the people of New York have survived a long time without a dam in that particular place. They can survive longer without it. Can anything survive, anything worth having, if our words become, as Mr. Feather says, excrement? Can anything we can reasonably call American Justice survive, if the words of our first President, if the sacred honor of George Washington is destroyed, if his promise that the Mohawk could keep these lands "as long as the mountain stands and the grass is green," if all that becomes nothing but excrement?

MR. KHARIS: Counsel is not arguing. Counsel is making speeches.

MR. CELINE: I am speaking from the heart. Are you—or are you speaking excrement that you are ordered to speak by your superiors?

MR. ALUCARD: More speeches.

MR. CELINE: More excrement

JUSTICE IMMHOTEP: Control yourself, Mr. Celine.

MR. CELINE: I am controlling myself. Otherwise, I would speak as frankly as my client and say that most of the speeches here are plain old shit. Why do I say "excrement" at all, if it isn't, tike you people, to disguise a little what we are all doing? It's shit. Plain shit.

JUSTICE IMMHOTEP: Mr. Celine, you are coming very close to contempt of court. I warn you.

MR. CELINE: Your honor, we speak the tongue of Shakespeare, of Milton, of Melville. Must we go on murdering it? Must we tear it away from its last umbilical connection with reality? What is going on in this room, actually? Defendants, the U.S. government and its agents, want to steal some land from my clients. How long do we have to argue that they have no justice, no right, no honor, in their cause? Why can't we say highway robbery is highway robbery, instead of calling it eminent domain? Why can't we say shit is shit, instead of calling it excrement? Why do we never use language to convey meaning? Why must we always use it conceal meaning? Why do we never speak from the heart? Why do we always speak words programmed into us, like robots?

JUSTICE IMMHOTEP: Mr. Celine, I warn you again.

MR. FEATHER: And I warn you. The world will die. The stars will go out. If men and women cannot trust the words spoken, the earth will crack, like a rotten pumpkin.

MR. KHARIS: I call for a recess. Plaintiff and their counsel are both in no emotional state to continue at this time.

MR. CELINE: You even have guns. You have men with guns and clubs, who are called marshals, and they will beat me if I don't shut up. How do you differ from any other gang of bandits, then, except in using language that conceals what you are doing? The only difference is that the bandits are more honest. That's the only difference. The only difference.

JUSTICE IMMHOTEP : Mr. Marshal, restrain the counsel.

MR. CELINE: You're stealing what isn't yours. Why can't you talk turkey for just one moment? Why—

JUSTICE IMMHOTEP: Just hold him, Marshal. Don't use unnecessary force. Mr. Celine, I am tempted to forgive you, considering that you are obviously much involved with your clients, emotionally. However, such mercy on my part would encourage other lawyers to believe they could follow your example. I have no choice. I find you guilty of contempt of court. Sentencing will take place when court reconvenes after a fifteen-minute recess. You may speak at that time, but only on any mitigating grounds that should lighten the degree of your sentence. I will not hear the United States government called bandits again. That is all.

MR. CELINE: You steal land, and you will not hear yourselves called bandits. You order men with guns and clubs to hold us down, and you will not hear yourselves called thugs. You don't act from the heart; where the hell do you act from? What in God's name does motivate you?

JUSTICE IMMHOTEP: Restrain him, Marshal.

MR. CELINE: (Indistinguishable.)

JUSTICE IMMHOTEP: Fifteen-minute recess.

BAILIFF: All rise.

click here for Joseph Campbell reading Chief Seattle's reply

Terence McKenna: Find the others


Terence McKenna: Find the others (audio only)

Where are ya?

Thursday, August 14, 2008

10 People with Unbelievable Medical Conditions

10 People with Unbelievable Medical Conditions at Oddee. Reality is so weird.
Tic Tac?

Charles Manson Interview with Charlie Rose


Charles Manson Interview with Charlie Rose part 1 & the rest

A great interview with a fascinating character. This interview I can, sort of, understand his B.S. and where he comes from. His belief and value systems got shaped in prison and on the street, and he really tries hard to make clear how different his reality tunnel is from the interviewer. And also how the image of him was partly manufactured (in a different interview more so than here). He makes a lot of fascinating remarks and social comments between some of the madness, and the ending is just gold. Many gems in there.

manson: Everything is love, there's nothing that isn't love, even the confusion is love in one form or another, it's misguided. Love is a word to supplement for God, or I would rather use the word intelligence, if you're goning to use the word love, use the word intelligence, because love is misunderstood in so many different ways and fashions.
rose: do you need to be loved?
manson: loved... I am loved, I am love
rose: by whom? are you loved?
manson: I am love
rose: are you loved?
manson: all the way and around the world with it, didn't you see it? 215 times taking it in the fire with it man
rose: meaning what
manson: me? meaning I'm taking up all the slack for you assholes. I'm carrying you around Nixon. I still got you... Reagan, hey Ronny! ... I'm intertwined in your very soul man.

Daily Conspiracy: Impeach Bush


How to create an angry American

Over and out, last call for sin

Impeach Bush dot org

Wednesday, August 13, 2008

I Met The Walrus (John Lennon short film)


I Met The Walrus (John Lennon short film)

In 1969, a 14-year-old Beatle fanatic named Jerry Levitan, armed with a reel-to-reel tape deck, snuck into John Lennon's hotel room in Toronto and convinced John to do an interview about peace. 38 years later, Jerry has produced a film about it. Using the original interview recording as the soundtrack, director Josh Raskin has woven a visual narrative which tenderly romances Lennon's every word in a cascading flood of multipronged animation. Raskin marries the terrifyingly genius pen work of James Braithwaite with masterful digital illustration by Alex Kurina, resulting in a spell-binding vessel for Lennon's boundless wit, and timeless message.

Reality Sandwich: An American (Occult) Fascism?

Check out this interesting article at Reality Sandwich: An American Fascism? by Gary Lachman. The following is a slightly edited version of the afterword to his new book, Politics and the Occult: The Left, the Right, and the Radically Unseen, to be published by Quest in November 2008.
Starting with the mysterious appearance of the Rosicrucian manifestoes in Germany in the early 1600s, and ending, as the afterword shows, with some recent developments in the US, I look at some examples of occult or "illuminated" politics in the modern world. Some areas covered include Rosicrucian utopianism and its collapse in the Thirty Years War; the esoteric sexual politics of 18th century London and its influence on Emanuel Swedenborg; Freemasonry and Mesmerism's impact on radicalism in England, as well as on the French and American Revolutions; the rise of "popular occultism" in the work of the cabalistic socialist, Eliphas Levi; spiritualism and its links to the early Women's Movement; Theosophy and Indian self-government; the 'progressive' occultism of the fin-de-siecle; the Great Game and the search for Shambhala; the birth of the counterculture in the early 1900s; matriarchy, myth and the rise of Nazism; Rene Schwaller du Lubicz and anti-Semitism; Rene Guenon, Traditionalism, and the retreat from the modern world; the magical fascism of Julius Evola; and Mircea Eliade's links to the far-right politics of the Legion of the Archangel Michael. Read on.

Decapitated Heads, 888, and The Serpent of the Crossing


Decapitated Heads, 888, and The Serpent of the Crossing

Steve Willner & Jake Kotze theme up again for an excellent synchromystic vid.

Marko Rodin Math

1 2 4 8 7 5

1=1
2=2
4=4
8=8
16=7
32=5
64=1
128=2
256=4
512=8
1024=7
2048=5
4096=1

And on, and on... check out Marko Rodin on YouTube and his website. We can apparently apply this to aerodynamics, vortex based mathematics, the cyclical nature of time, dimensions, etc.

We are the Illuminati


We are the Illuminati

Another Robert Anton Wilson compilation about paranoia & winner and loser scripts. Paranoia isn't a very healthy state of mind (by its very definition :p), I'm more for pronoia (the universe is conspiring for me! :p) and metanoia, by which I mean you can theorize all you want but don't 'believe 100%' or take assumptions for truth (the wikipedia entry talks about quite different stuff :p) and don't go obsessively worrying - how would that be beneficial in any way? The wonderful thing about this is more possibilities and avenues of thought are possible, lateral instead of linear thinking. Ideas are toys & the search for truth a game. Thanks Nearing2012

100 Greatest Stand Ups: Bill Bailey, Bill Hicks


100 Greatest Stand Ups: Bill Bailey, Bill Hicks

Daily Conspiracy: Illuminatus!

Excerpt from the semi-fictional novel 'Illuminatus! Trilogy - Eye in the Pyramid' by Robert Shea & Robert Anton Wilson, written between 1969 and 1971.

"The Illuminati. The real force behind all communist and fascist movements. Whether you're aware of it or not, they're also already in control of the United States government."

"I thought everybody in your crowd was a right-winger—"

"And I told you spacial metaphors are inadequate in discussing politics today," Hagbard interrupted.

"Well, you sound like a gang of right-wingers. Up until the last minute, all I've heard from you and your people was that the Illuminati were commies, or were behind the commies. Now you say they're behind fascism and behind the current government in Washington, too."

Hagbard laughed. "We came on like right-wing paranoids, at first, to see how you'd react. It was a test."

"And?"

"You passed. You didn't believe us—that was obvious—but you kept your eyes and ears open and were willing to listen. If you were a right-winger, we would have done our pro-communist rap. The idea is to find out if a new man or woman will listen, really listen, or just shut their minds at the first really shocking idea."

"I'm listening, but not uncritically. For instance, if the Illuminati control America already, what's the purpose of the assassinations?"

"Their grip on Washington is still pretty precarious. They've been able to socialize the economy. But if they showed their hand now and went totalitarian all the way, there would be a revolution. Middle-readers would rise up with right-wingers, and left-libertarians, and the Illuminati aren't powerful enough to withstand that kind of massive revolution. But they can rule by fraud, and by fraud eventually acquire access to the tools they need to finish the job of killing off the Constitution."

"What sort of tools?"

"More stringent security measures. Universal electronic surveillance. No-knock laws. Stop and frisk laws. Government inspection of first-class mail. Automatic fingerprinting, photographing, blood tests, and urinalysis of any person arrested before he is charged with a crime. A law making it unlawful to resist even unlawful arrest. Laws establishing detention camps for potential subversives. Gun control laws. Restrictions on travel. The assassinations, you see, establish the need for such laws in the public mind. Instead of realizing that there is a conspiracy, conducted by a handful of men, the people reason—or are manipulated into reasoning—that the entire populace must have its freedom restricted in order to protect the leaders. The people agree that they themselves can't be trusted. Targets for assassination will be mavericks of left or right who are either not part of the Illuminati conspiracy or have been marked as unreliable. The Kennedy brothers and Martin Luther King, for example, were capable of mobilizing a somewhat libertarian left-right-black-white populist movement. But the assassinations that have occurred so far are nothing compared to what will take place. The next wave will be carried out by the Mafia, who will be paid in Illuminati gold."

"Not Moscow gold," said George with a smile.

"The puppets in the Kremlin have no idea that they and the puppets in the White House are working for the same people. The Illuminati control all sorts of organizations and national governments without any of them being aware that others are also controlled. Each group thinks it is competing with the others, while actually each is playing its part in the Illuminati plan. Even the Morituri—the six-person affinity groups which splintered from the SDS Weathermen, because the Weathermen seemed too cautious—are under the control of the Illuminati. They think they're working to bring down the government, but actually they are strengthening its hand. The Black Panthers are also infiltrated.

Everything is infiltrated. At present rate, within the next few years the Illuminati will have the American people under tighter surveillance than Hitler had the Germans. And the beauty of it is, the majority of the Americans will have been so frightened by Illuminati-backed terrorist incidents that they will beg to be controlled as a masochist begs for the whip."

George shrugged. Hagbard sounded like a typical paranoid, but there was this submarine and the strange events of the past few days. "So the Illuminati are conspiring to tyrannize the world, is that it? Do you trace them back to the First International?"

They're what happened when the Enlightenment of the eighteenth century collided with German mysticism. The correct name for the organization is Ancient Illuminated Seers of Bavaria. According to their own traditions they were founded or revived in seventeen seventy-six on May first by a man named Adam Weishaupt. Weishaupt was an unfrocked Jesuit and a Mason. He taught that religions and national governments had to be overthrown and the world ruled by an elite of scientifically-minded materialistic atheists, to be held in trust for the masses of mankind who would eventually rule themselves when enlightenment became universal. But this was only Weishaupt's 'Outer Doctrine.' There was also an 'Inner Doctrine,' which was that power is an end in itself, and that Weishaupt and his closest followers would make use of the new knowledge being developed by scientists and engineers to seize control of the world. Back in seventeen seventy-six, things were run largely by the Church and the feudal nobility, with the capitalists slowly getting a bigger and bigger piece of the pie. Weishaupt declared that these groups were obsolete, and it was time for an elite with a monopoly on scientific and technological knowledge to seize power. Instead of eventually producing a democratic society, as the 'Outer Doctrine' promised, the Ancient Illuminated Seers of Bavaria would saddle mankind with a dictatorship that would last forever."

"Well, it would be logical enough that someone around that time would think of that," said George. "And who more likely than a Mason who was an unfrocked Jesuit?"

"Well, the Illuminati, after staying above ground long enough to recruit a hard-core membership from Masons and freethinkers and to establish international contacts, allowed it to seem that the Bavarian government had suppressed them. Subsequently, the Illuminati launched their first experimental revolution, in France. Here they suckered the middle class, whose true interests lay in laissez faire free enterprise, to follow the Weishaupt slogan of 'Liberty, Equality, Fraternity.' The catch, of course, is that where equality and fraternity rule, there is no liberty. After the career of Napoleon, whose rise and fall was purely the result of Illuminati manipulations, they started planting the seeds of European socialism, leading to the revolutions of eighteen forty-eight, to Marxism, finally to the seizure of Russia, one-sixth of the earth's land mass. Of course, they had to engineer a world war to make the Russian Revolution possible, but by nineteen seventeen they had become quite good at that. World War Two was an even more clever job and resulted in more gains for them."

"Another thing this explains," George said, "is why orthodox Marxism-Leninism, in spite of all its ideals, always turns out to be not worth a shit. Why it's always betrayed the people wherever it established itself. And it explains why there's such an inevitable quality about America's drift toward totalitarianism."

"Right," said Hagbard. "America is the target now. They've got most of Europe and Asia. Once they get America, they can come out into the open. The world will then be much as Orwell predicted in Nineteen Eighty-four. They bumped him off after it was published, you know. The book hit a little too close to home. He was obviously on to them—the references to Inner and Outer parties with different teachings, O'Brien's speech about power being an end in itself—and they got him. Orwell, you see, ran across them in Spain, where they were functioning quite openly at one point during the Civil War. But artists also arrive at truth through their imaginations, if they let themselves wander freely. They're more likely to arrive at the truth than more scientific-minded people."

"You've just tied two hundred years of world history up in a theory that would make me feel I should have myself committed if I accepted it," said George. "But I'm drawn to it, I admit. Partly intuitively—I feel you are a person who is essentially sane and not paranoid. Partly because the orthodox version of history that I was taught in school never made sense to me, and I know how people can twist history to suit their beliefs, and therefore I assume that the history I've learned is twisted. Partly because of the very wildness of the idea. If I learned one thing in the last few years, it's that the crazier an idea is the more likely it is to be true. Still and all, given all those reasons for believing you, I would like some further sign."

New Synchromystic Page at Dedroidify.com

Nothing special but in an effort to help spread the word at least a little more on Synchromysticism, I've added a Synchromystic webpage on the archive companion site to this blog Dedroidify.com.

It's a little summary page including links to sites, videos and interviews. I obviously also included the great blogroll (Who's the admin of that? Thuther thoughts has been gone for a while and some blogs could be added) and a little extra, access to a lot of information on one page - that maybe you could use to help introduce synchromysticism to more people.

I'm open to any suggestions, I'll add anyone that would like a graphic feature (and will add some more automatically when I find some time, damn html takes up a lot of time ;p), just lemme know and link me the jpg file (I'm not hotlinking any images now & lemme know if you'd like a change if you're on it). And let me know if I forgot a blog or site. There are so many out there!

Tuesday, August 12, 2008

Robert Anton Wilson Lives on!


Robert Anton Wilson LIVES ON

RAW talks about chaos in general and the hilarious joke 'religion' of Discordianism, based on Eris - the goddess of chaos and discord - and its catmas, the opposite of dogmas.

My favorites from this vid: "All there is, is metaphor" & "the guy who thinks he's the only pope."

Thanks Nearing2012

"Meh E-book readers, cause ppl don't read anymore" says Jobs

Steve Jobs from Apple said this about the Kindle ebook reader:

“It doesn’t matter how good or bad the product is, the fact is that people don’t read anymore,” he said. “Forty percent of the people in the U.S. read one book or less last year. The whole conception is flawed at the top because people don’t read anymore.”

This kinda sucks, I'd really love a good ebook reader, a shame that Apple won't be doing much about it. The new Iwhatevers may be the closest current thing to 'tricorders', but it's not like TEXT is such a hard challenge to support decently in your freaking device. What an argument too, hey lets give up on reading... :p totally ignoring the blogosphere and internet in general. With a keyboard option you have a great easy mobile computer, the future!

And what, doesn't Steve Jobs read beside his bank account?

The Spirit of the Buffalo


Battle at Kruger

You may have been one of the apparently 36+ million people who have viewed this video :p but I wasn't so I share.

Shrooms harnessing Radiactive Energy

What's blooming inside the perilous depths of the Chernobyl reactor?

Sitting at the centre of the exclusion zone, the damaged reactor unit is encased in a steel and cement sarcophagus. It's a deathly tomb that plays host to about 200 tonnes of melted radioactive fuel, and is swarming with radioactive dust.

But it's also the abode of some very hardy fungi which researchers believe aren't just tolerating the severe radiation, but actually harnessing its energy to thrive.

Radiation-loving fungi may also prove useful, according to Dadachova. Their melanin gene, she said, might eventually be popped into food crops and used to help growth in difficult regions. And astronauts on long spaceflights might one day find a useful, self-replenishing diet in black, melanin-rich fungi.

And because the fungi don't actually 'eat' radioactive material, but simply use the energy it radiates, Dadachova said, they're in no danger of becoming radioactive themselves. Read on here.

The questions on everybody's minds are obviously:
1. Are they edible? ("1. All fungi are edible. 2. Some fungi are not edible more than once." Terry Pratchett)
2. Are they Hallucinogenic? (And if they are, what are the chances of me ever coming back?!)
3. WHERE CAN I GET SOME? (I'm not going into that reactor, and I'm just kidding too ;p)

More seriously though (not much), check out McKenna's views on a possible space travelling mushroom.

Society of the Spectacle

"We must discover new frontiers... People have been standing for centuries before a worm-eaten door, making pinholes in it with increasing ease. The time has come to kick it down, for it is only on the other side that everything begins."
Raoul Vaneigem

Raoul Vaneigem and Guy Debord are/were two Belgian Situationists (a small group of international political and artistic agitators with roots in Anarchism, Lettrism and the early 20th century European artistic and political avant-gardes.)

Guy Debord wrote The Society of the Spectacle, a work of philosophy and critical theory about society. Let's explore some of the ideas therein:

Degradation of human life
Debord traces the development of a modern society in which authentic social life has been replaced with its representation: "All that was once directly lived has become mere representation." Debord argues that the history of social life can be understood as "the decline of being into having, and having into merely appearing." This condition, according to Debord, is the "historical moment at which the commodity completes its colonization of social life."

With the term spectacle, Debord defines the system that is a confluence of advanced capitalism, the mass media, and the types of governments who favor those phenomena. "... the spectacle, taken in the limited sense of "mass media" which are its most glaring superficial manifestation...". The spectacle is the inverted image of society in which relations between commodities have supplanted relations between people, in which passive identification with the spectacle supplants genuine activity. "The spectacle is not a collection of images," Debord writes. "rather, it is a social relationship between people that is mediated by images."

Mass media and commodity fetishism
The Society of the Spectacle is a critique of contemporary consumer culture and commodity fetishism. Before the term ‘globalization’ was popularized, Debord was arguing about issues such as class alienation, cultural homogenization, and the mass media.

When Debord says that, “All that was once directly lived has become mere representation,” he is referring to central importance of the image in contemporary society. Images, Debord says, have supplanted genuine human interaction.

Thus, Debord’s fourth thesis is "The spectacle is not a collection of images; rather, it is a social relationship between people that is mediated by images."

In a consumer society, social life is not about living but about having; the spectacle uses the image to convey what people need and must have. Consequently, social life moves further, leaving a state of 'having' and proceeding into a state of 'appearing;' namely the appearance of the image.

Comparison between religion and marketing
Debord also draws an equivalence between the role of mass media marketing in the present and the role of religions in the past. The spread of Commodity-images by the mass media, produces "waves of enthusiasm for a given product" resulting in "moments of fervent exaltation similar to the ecstasies of the convulsions and miracles of the old religious fetishism".

Other observations Debord makes on religion: "The remains of religion and of the family (the principal relic of the heritage of class power) and the moral repression they assure, merge whenever the enjoyment of this world is affirmed–this world being nothing other than repressive pseudo-enjoyment." "The monotheistic religions were a compromise between myth and history, ... These religions arose on the soil of history, and established themselves there. But there they still preserve themselves in radical opposition to history." Debord defines them as Semi-historical religion. "The growth of knowledge about society, which includes the understanding of history as the heart of culture, derives from itself an irreversible knowledge, which is expressed by the destruction of God."

Daily Conspiracy: Group Think

"The conscious and intelligent maniplulation of organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in a democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power in our country... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested largely by men we have never heard of... We are dominated by a relatively small number of persons... It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind and who harness social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world." Edward Bernays

"The sick individual finds himself at home with all other similarly sick individuals. the whole culture is geared to this kind of pathology. The result is that the average individual does not experience the separateness and isolation the fully schizophrenic person feels. He feels at ease among those suffer from the same deformation; in fact, it is the fully sane person who feels isolated int he insane society - and he may suffer so much from the incapacity to communicate that it is he who may become psychotic." Erich Fromm

"When in group narcissism, the object is not the individual but he group to which he belongs... The assertion that "my country" (or nation, or religion) is the most wonderful, the most cultural, the most powerful, the most peace-loving, etc. does not sound crazy at all; on the contrary, it sounds like an experssion of patriotism, faith and loyalty." Erich Fromm

"The larger a society or confederacy, the greater the amalgamation of collective factors - which is typical of every large organization - the more aggraveted the moral and spiritual degeneration of the individual" Carl Gustav Jung

Subcultures are just another manner of manufactured division.

Thanks!

I noticed last week set a new visitor record of 5320, which is 760 unique visitors a day (including a lot of random google hits though) after this blog is up for little over half a year and still growing! I just wanna say thanks for the support everybody. It's very fun and I keep enjoying the input and output (your daily dose of 'wtf', lol) both, and the great synchromystic people with all those wonderful idea(toy)s.
I have some more symbolist movie type ups in the works to post soon, always fun to use an accessible opener to many different esoteric subjects, though those posts do take up an amazing amount of time!
Please keep spreading the word too. I'm throwing this dedroidify banner out there, I'll cook up some more in the future, have been thinking about a few new header possibilities as well. Oh for the myspacers, I noticed a while ago my myspace its privacy was automatically enhanced by an upgrade they did, so I set it again so that everyone can make a friend request. Also the RSS page and file has been updated, if you don't know what RSS means check the link it's explained and you get an import RSS file with the updates of dozens of great websites. Thanks again everybody, if you have any suggestions or requests I look forward to them, and keep dedroidifying!

Monday, August 11, 2008

Ledger's Dark (k)Night of the Soul continues

Check out a short intro to Carl Jung and a Jungian Analysis of the Dark Knight characters and more at Vector Equilibrium: A Synchronicities Blog, with more to come! When the Dog-Star Woofs the Whole Weave Warps about everything at Aferrismoon. The Dark Knight Curse and Joker's Card, Jokawild and Decapitations at The Copycat Effect. PseudOccult's Mind Control Heath Ledger's Two Hands. Why So Serious? about the gay Joker and Fool at Gosporn. And the Obligatory Dark Knight Post & Return of the Joker at Secret Sun.

Here are some earlier Dark Knight, Heath Ledger related posts: Synchromystic goodies, Heath Ledger Syncfest: Crows, Ravens & Bats, The Dark Knight: A Synchromystic Conspiratorial review. If you found any other interesting articles or posts that I haven't linked yet please share in the comments.

SOS 'Students for an Orwellian Society' Successes

As to be expected, SOS has been quite successful. Since the events of 11 September, we have been able to convince a number of figures in national and local politics to help forward our aims. How could they do otherwise? Our successes can be shown to fit into the three major ideals of Ingsoc as expressed by Orwell:

War Is Peace
* Oceania (commonly called the US and Britain) is at war with Afghanistan Iraq. Oceania has always been at war with Afghanistan Iraq.
* Eurasia (commonly called Russia, Pakistan, etc.) is allied with Oceania in war against Afghanistan. Eurasia has always been allied with Oceania.
* In order to fight terrorism, we must cause it, says Donald Rumsfeld.
* It's okay that there were no “weapons of mass destruction” in Iraq; that's not why we went to war. It's equally okay that there are so many of them in Oceania.
* “I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace.” — George W. Bush, 43rd President of the United States

Freedom Is Slavery
* The Anti-Terrorism Act ensures US citizens' freedom by ensuring the FBI's ability to examine their activities.
* We encourage all true citizens of this country to join Operation TIPS, which, we promise, will help further an Orwellian society in ways that we at SOS cannot even begin to fathom.
* When flying, you may use the toilet. However, if it is occupied, do not wait in line for it to become free. Only a terrorist would do that.
* In London, feel secure beneath the watchful eyes of Transport for London.

Ignorance Is Strength
* There is no dissent in this country. Those who disagree with President Bush are merely confused.
* The New York Times published an excellent piece of doublethink in its magazine section on Sunday 18 November. It is bad that Al-Jazeera fails to take American positions seriously. It is good that American media doesn't take Arab positions seriously. And all this from an Arab-American scholar who President Bush the First once called “more anti-Arab than the Israelis.”
* Government agencies are requesting that certain government reports be removed from public libraries. An excellent indication that SOS is having influence at the highest levels!
* Thanks, Time Magazine for removing articles from your website!

Just an excerpt. Check the link for more of their successes so far (some links are down unfortunately).

How to Think Like a Genius

check out this page How to Think Like a Genius from wikihow.com
"Embrace change, uncertainty, and doubt. It is on these edges of knowledge that innovation and discovery happen."

Anthony De Mello Quotes

This is a real interesting man, he talks about belief systems too, have to share (& check out) more. Thanks again Earth Evolution 101!

A disciple said to him, "I am ready, in the quest for God, to give up anything: wealth, friends, family, country, life itself. What else can a person give up?"
The Master calmly replied, "One's beliefs about God."

As soon as you look at the world through an ideology you are finished. No reality fits an ideology. Life is beyond that. That is why people are always searching for a meaning to life… Meaning is only found when you go beyond meaning. Life only makes sense when you perceive it as mystery and it makes no sense to the conceptualizing mind.

To a visitor who asked to become his disciple the Master said, "You may live with me, but don't become my follower."
"Whom, then, shall I follow?"
"No one. The day you follow someone you cease to follow Truth."

Is there life before death? —that is the question!

"Help us to find God."
"No one can help you there."
"Why not?"
"For the same reason that no one can help the fish to find the ocean."

"I wish to become a teacher of the Truth."
"Are you prepared to be ridiculed, ignored and starving till you are forty-five?"
"I am. But tell me: What will happen after I am forty-five?"
"You will have grown accustomed to it."

If you just swallow everything I am telling you, I am brainwashing you.

A thought is a screen, not a mirror; that is why you live in a thought envelope, untouched by Reality.

All I did was sit on the riverbank handing out river water. After I'm gone, I trust you will notice the river.

Every word, every image used for God is a distortion more than a description.

Is it possible for the rose to say, "I will give my fragrance to the good people who smell me, but I will withhold it from the bad?" Or is it possible for the lamp to say, "I will give my light to the good people in this room, but I will withhold it from the evil people"? Or can a tree say, "I'll give my shade to the good people who rest under me, but I will withhold it from the bad"? These are images of what love is about.

Nobody can be said to have attained the pinnacle of Truth until a thousand sincere people have denounced him for blasphemy.

People who want a cure, provided they can have it without pain, are like those who favour progress, provided they can have it without change.

Suffering is a sign that you're out of touch with the truth. Suffering is given to you that you might open your eyes to the truth, that you might understand that there's falsehood somewhere, just as physical pain is given to you so you will understand that there is disease or illness somewhere. Suffering points out that there is falsehood somewhere. Suffering occurs when you clash with reality. When your illusions clash with reality when your falsehoods clash with the truth, then you have suffering. Otherwise there is no suffering.

The disciples were absorbed in a discussion of Lao-tzu’s dictum: "Those who know do not say; Those who say do not know."
When the master entered, they asked him what the words meant.
Said the master, "Which of you knows the fragrance of a rose?"
All of them indicated that they knew.
Then he said, "put it into words."
All of them were silent.

The important thing is not to know who "I" is or what "I" is. You'll never succeed. There are no words for it. The important thing is to drop the labels.

You know you are a Mystic when you wake up one day and ask, am I crazy or are they?

Wisdom tends to grow in proportion to one's awareness of one's ignorance.

"You are only a disciple because your eyes are closed. The day you open them you will see there is nothing you can learn from me or anyone."
"What then is a Master for?"
"To make you see the uselessness of having one."

The Inevitable Unknown

"Enlightenment is absolute cooperation with the inevitable"
Anthony de Mello (a JESUIT, *gasp* :p but he did butt heads with RATzinger)
Thanks Earth Evolution 101


"Response-Ability... the ability to respond creatively to the unknown."
Antero Alli

"People are so fearful of the unknown... 'Whatever it is, I'm against it.'" :p
Eckhart Tolle

"Power rests on the kind of knowledge one holds. What is the sense of knowing things that are useless? They will not prepare us for our encounter with the Unknown."
Don Juan (Carlos Castaneda)

"Faith is, above all, open-ness - an act of trust in the unknown."
Alan Watts

Alan Watts: The Book on the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are

This book explores an unrecognized but mighty taboo - our tacit (silent) conspiracy to ignore who, or what, we really are. Briefly, the thesis is that the prevalent sensation of oneself as a separate ego enclosed in a bag of skin is a hallucination which accords neither with Western Science nor with the experimental philosophy-religions of the East.

This hallucination underlies the misuse of technology for the violent subjugation of man's natural environment and, consequently, its eventual destruction. We are therefore in urgent need of a sense of our own existence which is in accord with the physical facts and which overcomes our feeling of alienation from the universe.

"I find that the sensation of myself as an ego inside a bag of skin is really a hallucination. What we really are is, first of all, the whole of our body. And although our bodies are bounded with skin, and we can differentiate between outside and inside, they cannot exist except in a certain kind of natural environment. Obviously a body requires air, and the air must be within a certain temperature range. The body also requires certain kinds of nutrition. So in order to occur the body must be on a mild and nutritive planet with just enough oxygen in the atmosphere spinning regularly around in a harmonious and rhythmical way near a certain kind of warm star.
That arrangement is just as essential to the existence of my body as my heart, my lungs, and my brain. So to describe myself in a scientific way, I must also describe my surroundings, which is a clumsy way getting around to the realization that you are the entire universe. However we do not normally feel that way because we have constructed in thought an abstract idea of our self."

Daily Conspiracy: Get me out of here, please


Pinback - Grey Machine (Shorter Fanvid) (this post is about the lyrics)

lie, lie, lie... blind them...

on the left side
a parking attendant sleeps
selling space and time
(on the right side
a parking attendant sleeps
selling space and time)

they have grasped the concept of property
understand that lengths of time
can be twisted into someone's
monetary advantage

but, i can see myself in that building that stands
across from me reflecting in the sky
you can see yourself swim along with giant whales
down the street reflecting in the sky

on sunny days
the people on the beach
like ants in my food
they must have closed the mall

here comes whitey to exploit
the simple pleasures nature gave me
then try to tax them all

i'm letting go
it's scaring me

lay in the yard
curled in a ball
hails in your mouth
keys still in the car door
face in the dirt
smells more than clean
synapsis tapped
you're well out

on the side of the house
its burned in the ground
that secret code
that signal go
there's a stain on the grass
that's calling us home
you lie inside for the
transistor send

my heart skips a beat

lie, lie, lie, blinded...

out of reach
out of touch
out of ink
out of kindness never hazing new guys

out of teeth
out of thought
out of time
out of life
like cattle grazing your mind

on the way to the car
on the head of the stone
on the edge of the lake
on the end of the joke
on the crack of the floor
on the slab of the day
on the dent of the face
on the mind of the cop
on the scar of the rat
on the last of the calls
on the rest of the doc
on the smile of the kid

pick me up
take me home
get me out of here
please



on the underside i'm letting go
they know we're on to them
we know to avoid - their snare
they're pulling us back
we run for cover
escape is far
i'm letting go
its scaring me
break
i'm gonna break..

Sunday, August 10, 2008

Daniel Pinchbeck VS Whitley Strieber

This podcast: War in Dreamland was really excellent for me, it's a few months old so sorry for the old news. But I only listened to it now, two researchers challenging eachother on their belief system and reality tunnel. I'd love to hear more researchers doing that. It got a little heated but remained very interesting. I know about both authors but haven't read any of their books, and I've only heard and seen what Daniel Pinchbeck has online.
They get to a point in the conversation where Pinchbeck challenges Whitley Strieber on his negative view of the future, he believes there will be a huge “die-off” of the human species in the immediate future (Pinchbeck repeated this a lot hehe). Pinchbeck said he was projecting his shadow too, but ironically was losing his own temper. Strieber was able to stay relatively calm but used some strong defensive language himself, and didn't appreciate it at all when Pinchbeck suggested his entity contacts might be influencing him negatively (I have no idea :p Am fascinated to find out more. More about this from Pinchbeck later in the post). The talk never really got out of hand for me though. Pinchbeck apologized too. I never felt the need to pick a side, or was persuaded one way or the other because both men had valid points and I understood their perspectives, taking both their history in consideration and trying to learn the most this way. It just goes to show the limits of language, the unconscious connections we make and how easy it is to get emotional over our values, views and beliefs. Even for the most aware. Ah to be human. I wonder how neutral I come across in this post to some people even though I'm trying hard to be I'm sure subjectivity always continues to shine through haha ;).
I do agree though that Strieber shouldn't be so sure about, and not necessarily especially, a negative future but any future, and send those vibes out, and that more discretion and carefully worded language could be used, like E-prime. I agree with Pinchbeck that we should take responsibility for the vibes we put out there (and I'll keep trying to improve the positivity which needs a boost with the daily conspiracy series, but that doesn't mean ignoring the conspiracy realm, I'll start with a more positive daily series when the conspiracy series runs out ;)), but at the same time I agree with Strieber that everything should be looked at and explored and that I'm not convinced (yet?) either about 'thought creating reality'. Both came out ok of the interview for me.
I think I'll read Strieber's book Communion, just because I wanna know what happened now, especially since Pinchbeck mentioned the original title was going to be 'Body Terror' until an entity told him to change it! What to think, well, nothing until you have at least some amount of info to be able to come up with an interpretation ;). I won't spoil it all (lol, haven't I already?) you'll just have to listen for yourself ;). I'll include both authors own views on the discussion and some excerpts I find interesting, if you still want more I read some interesting (including some very bias-detectable) blogposts on the interwebs so head to google for that ;).

Here's Daniel Pinchbeck's view on the discussion.

"The discussion then turned in a different direction. I noted that, from my reading of Strieber's work, I suspected that Strieber was influenced by the force that the visionary philosopher Rudolf Steiner called 'Ahriman,' the evil spirit who pulls humanity down into minerality, materiality, sterile technology, and extinction. As I also noted in 2012, I told Strieber that I thought he had been manipulated by alien entities that do not have the best interests of the human species at heart. Communion is ultimately the story of Strieber's seduction by those entities he calls the 'visitors' often known as the Grays. He notes that he was going to call the book 'body terror,' but changed the name to Communion when one of them told him to do this, speaking through his wife, while she slept. He also describes how the visitors were able to make him drink a bitter substance, by feeding it to him at different junctures over time. As anyone knows who has studied fairytales and fables, to drink the potion of the other world is to become entranced and overwhelmed by the beings that inhabit it."

And here is Whitley Strieber's.

Pinchbeck accuses me of bringing on a dark future by predicting it. That’s magical thinking, and just as impotent as its opposite—that you can create a positive future by believing in it. (The jury is still out on this one for me, for me awareness is a search light and synchronicity is fascinating, and that's where I'm at at this time.)

I say in the program that I believe that mankind is going to experience a dieback, and this makes Pinchbeck furious because he fears that just by saying something like that, it will become true. I don’t want to put words in another man’s mouth, but I had the impression that he sees me as a sort of viral particle of negativism, and that my perspective is designed to bring on the destructions of which I warn—presumably, so that my evil alien masters can inherit the ruined planet, I suppose.
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Pinchbeck is right about me in one respect. I do think that there’s going to be a dieback of the human species, and I do not think that anything can be done to avoid it. Certainly, it can be ameliorated and even, to an extent, controlled, but it is going to happen. (Well I can't agree with such an assertion. "It seems very likely at this time" is a safer way to not look foolish when it doesn't ;p)

The reason that I’m sure of this could not be more simple. In nature, there is a formation called a bell curve. When the ascending shoulder of a bell curve develops, the descending shoulder follows. Nothing goes up for ever. Entropy always sets in. It must. That’s the way that physics works. I said it on the show—at least, I think I did—and it’s worth repeating here. Nature is numbers. It’s math, pure and simple.